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  • 0. Marks of Honor in the future   20/12/2006 01:54:05 PST
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The devs are aware that many folks have an overabundance of Marks of Honor. They are in discussion about what Marks should yield, if they get turned in. The desire is there to find a sink for Marks, it is just undecided as to what will be returned for Marks or how the system will work exactly.

So, short answer is mostly 'Yes', with more details to come.

As something like this would most likely go into a patch, rough estimate would be post-TBC release, when we will start seeing patch updates again. The most recent patch will be our last patch until after release.

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  • 1. Re: Marks of Honor in the future   20/12/2006 02:13:32 PST
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/bump


sounds good

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  • 3. Re: Marks of Honor in the future   20/12/2006 03:36:01 PST
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As something like this would most likely go into a patch, rough estimate would be post-TBC release


You mean: even if we get any use for the marks - not even in a months time, right?
Hence you mean: placing a NPC takes a month, right?

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  • Archimonde
  • 4. Re: Marks of Honor in the future   20/12/2006 04:15:45 PST
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this is blizzard, if they imlemented an NPC as quick as the new brilliant honour nerf, he would have one leg, his head would be on backwards, and he would probably kill you on sight.
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  • 5. Re: Marks of Honor in the future   20/12/2006 04:42:48 PST
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Typical Blizz, postpone fixing the problem until it goes away or people get used to it.

This current pvp-boom + honor nerf = overflow of tokens.
In a month we will be busy leveling our chars to 70 and exploring and stuff, no time for pvp-grind then.

One quick solution would be to cancel the nerf and just give more honor but no, gotta make sure people have something to grind for the next month.
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  • 6. Re: Marks of Honor in the future   20/12/2006 05:28:53 PST
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How about a quick fix for now, like not spamming my email box with hundreds of them. Its extremely irritating, cos I dont know when I have real mail :(

A long term solution could be to award 1 bonus honour per 1-5 marks or something instead of the mark (if the player already has 100 of those marks)? Its better than just throwing them away?
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  • 7. Re: Marks of Honor in the future   20/12/2006 05:31:20 PST
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Just had a mega brainwave. why dont you just throw away the mark system altogether, its no longer needed? Maybe replace it with XP / gold?
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  • 8. Re: Marks of Honor in the future   20/12/2006 05:40:01 PST
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There's a very very simple solution that could be implemented now, while we wait for an NPC, or whatever the devs want to do.

Change marks form being Unique (100) to say Unique (1000), and let them stack to 1000. That would keep things simple and prevent most mark wastage that simply occurs by mail box pile-up.

[ Post edited by Ashenn ]

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  • 9. Re: Marks of Honor in the future   20/12/2006 05:58:17 PST
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There's a very very simple solution that could be implemented now, while we wait for an NPC, or whatever the devs want to do.

Change marks form being Unique (100) to say Unique (1000), and let them stack to 1000. That would keep things simple and prevent most mark wastage that simply occurs by mail box pile-up.

ouch! It would be too popular decision, you know... They have done one already, when they implemented pre-patch pvp system... it gave them too much Reputation gain with Players =))
Now they are going to balance it with continous unpopular moves like honor nerf, double honor nerf distraction, 'working as intended not gonna give details', marks unresolved for ages etc things.

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  • 10. Re: Marks of Honor in the future   20/12/2006 06:04:30 PST
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I think you guys may need to use different routes for your suggestions as they arent being heard in this forums.

As we've seen on "12/12 Honor Gain Reduction" posts, huge amounts of suggestions, questions etc. No blue poster would even dare to answer those.

Now they gives us this, haha. SERIOUSLY! Are you people SERIOUS up there?

How you can NERF honor -30% just in ONE WEEK cause of 5% population gaining too much HONOR? Now we're having a SITUATION, 100% of pvp'ers has mail full of TOKENS cause they CANT go in inventory and you inform us, that you'll doing something for it in the near future?

Yeah right, cya next week!

And yes, we already have all the friking epic mounts.. Stop ruining the game, make it playworthy again thank you.
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  • 11. Re: Marks of Honor in the future   20/12/2006 06:40:18 PST
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you know what i say, "Blizzard You Have Other More Pressing Issues Within Your Gaming Code That Needs Your Attention NOW, "HOT FIX", So Please Stop Creating More Problems buy tring to offer us a "Smooth over to keep us quite", Fix the imediate problem's first!." I.E "-> Honor <-

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  • 12. Re: Marks of Honor in the future   20/12/2006 07:01:48 PST
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lol you damn whiners.. ITS NOT EVEN CERTAINLY YOU GAIN HONOR when turning inn, did you even read that? They have decided to make a turn-in, but not the reward :X

Give them a break please.

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  • Darrowmere
  • 13. Re: Marks of Honor in the future   20/12/2006 07:22:59 PST
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I doubt they'll ever allow you to swap marks for honor. Seeing as there trying to limit honor at the moment. I'd like to see 1 of 2 things happen.

Rep - Like in the old system 3 marks = 50 rep with that faction. Should be very easy to implement as all you need to do is readd the NPC and remove the honor bonus.

BG specific Items use only marks instead of marks + honor (or maybe alot less honor + alot more marks). So say the AB Epic Shoulders require 60-80 marks. The unstoppable force requires 60-80 marks etc. This way people can use there tokens without wasting honor points. Again very easy to implement as i'd imagine you can change the BG item costs without a patch.
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  • 14. Re: Marks of Honor in the future   20/12/2006 07:28:17 PST
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The devs are aware that many folks have an overabundance of Marks of Honor.


hehe took you nearly 2 weeks to work that one out, would have thought that you might have noticed that the marks of honor would have been a problem before your released the patch.
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  • 15. Re: Marks of Honor in the future   20/12/2006 07:28:35 PST
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There's a very very simple solution that could be implemented now, while we wait for an NPC, or whatever the devs want to do.

Change marks form being Unique (100) to say Unique (1000), and let them stack to 1000. That would keep things simple and prevent most mark wastage that simply occurs by mail box pile-up.


I think it could be a good solution too... my 2 cents.

Otherwise, they could (read pls: *could*... i've read what they wrote, so don't bother me with the "read the !#!*ing manual" flame-reply) give the possibility to exchange marks with honor but with a high fee, i.e. 30 marks of each kind give 1k honor. This could be a solution even to a gameplay problem: ppl who doesn't need marks and plays AB/AV/WSG only for zerg honor-kills... :)

or just make marks something we could sell to vendors... :D
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  • Gundrak
  • 16. Re: Marks of Honor in the future   20/12/2006 07:28:37 PST
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What a surprise, they will slowly deal with this issue

I mean how hard is it to put an npc in the game who collects the tokens and rewards us with honor, it's pretty pathetic that they use such a cheap trick "we are thinking about it, but haven't yet decided"

they could even let us hold more tokens say 200, if they can do a system wide 30% nerf to honour in a day why not do this? same old blizz, pretending to be thinking but actually just wants us to play more.



SO TRUE.. Would love to see a blue answer to your statement.. oh wait they won't. Everytime someone complains and says something negative about blizzard they will only reply if the person is wrong and they have something to say. No way in hell they got something to say to your post m8

They nerf the honor system by "30%" in 1 week without any heads up...its actually 51% even after blue posted that he talked to QA department and they said it was only 30%. Please, you think people are stupid and don't see the difference between 30% and 50%? I know for a FACT that I only get half the honor I should be getting or less since the fast nerf. I'm not talking about the "estimated honor", but the one you get the next day.

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  • 17. Re: Marks of Honor in the future   20/12/2006 07:32:26 PST
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How about giving the people a chance to get the 150 riding skill by turning in marks. I know alot of people who are having trouble with getting enough gold to buy the skill. I know you don't want people to support the goldsellers, so here is a good opportunity to help those unfortunate players out.

It seems reasonable that you by turning in marks can get a mount. But why not the riding skill aswell?
I'm not sure how many marks it should cost a player to get the skill so I leave that up to you. :)

Hope you consider this suggestion seriously as it would help the unfurtunate players and solve you problem at the same time. Don't know exactly what to do about those fortunate players with epic mounts. Maybe some form of consumable epic potion/enchants?

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  • 18. Re: Marks of Honor in the future   20/12/2006 07:40:15 PST
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How about giving the people a chance to get the 150 riding skill by turning in marks. I know alot of people who are having trouble with getting enough gold to buy the skill. I know you don't want people to support the goldsellers, so here is a good opportunity to help those unfortunate players out.

It seems reasonable that you by turning in marks can get a mount. But why not the riding skill aswell?
I'm not sure how many marks it should cost a player to get the skill so I leave that up to you. :)

Hope you consider this suggestion seriously as it would help the unfurtunate players and solve you problem at the same time. Don't know exactly what to do about those fortunate players with epic mounts. Maybe some form of consumable epic potion/enchants?


I dont need riding skills i need HONORPOINT

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  • 19. Re: Marks of Honor in the future   20/12/2006 07:42:55 PST
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just bring back the honour dudes, 3 marks for 100 honour will give AVers alot of motivation to win instead of running around killing elites.

...that is ofcourse not until you solve the Premade VS PUG issue.
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