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  • Stormscale
  • 0. The Reasn the 2v2 change is good.   19/06/2009 02:58:37 PDT
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Because after 4 years of playing wow on and off it will finnaly give me a reason to stop all together.

i have a cousin that lives 300 miles from me, we are like brothers, and for me to play 2v2 with him and earn gear through it was awsome, and one of the only reasons i played, its a good way for us to keep in contact.

when this change goes through we will both stop playing which is good in a way.

Im gna try aion online when it comes out my cousins in beta he says its amazing,

dynasty warrios crossed with wow aireil battles, final fantasy graphic engine but better.

AND 2V2 SETUP WHERE YOU EARN POINTS AND GEAR.

AION STATE "

"we really want aion to become an esport, and out main objective is to try and get 1 V 1
BALANCED or as close to ballanced as we can, there seems to be a trend in some games where 1 or 2 classes totatly dominate pvp we really dont want that in aion, and have had good balance feedback in beta so far"

so that where il be going, if its crap then i will stop mmoing, and play my xbox more.

im a shaman i get stuned and kilted all day long
im a shaman who gets destroyed in all situations
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  • Stormscale
  • 1. Re: The Reasn the 2v2 change is good.   19/06/2009 03:00:32 PDT
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It amazes me anyone actually thinks this change will make it to live.

It won't.

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormscale&n=Fl%C3%BDn
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  • Stormscale
  • 2. Re: The Reasn the 2v2 change is good.   19/06/2009 03:00:53 PDT
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YE ive heard aion is gna be really good.


the 2v2 change is the most fuked up thing to happen in wow for me tbh.

i can see how it will effect balancing but instead of fuking releasing new classes new battle grounds,

why dont they just spend there time trying to balance and release it in a patch instead

'3.3 Call of the balance'
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  • Stormscale
  • 3. Re: The Reasn the 2v2 change is good.   19/06/2009 03:01:56 PDT
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AION ??? LOOKS GOOD FROM THE VIDEOS.

hope it doesnt make it through to live tbh

[ Post edited by Shankyou ]

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  • 4. Re: The Reasn the 2v2 change is good.   19/06/2009 03:02:06 PDT
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It amazes me anyone actually thinks this change will make it to live.

It won't.


They believe everything what is said on the patch notes which isnt even on ptr yet
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  • 5. Re: The Reasn the 2v2 change is good.   19/06/2009 03:02:41 PDT
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It amazes me anyone actually thinks this change will make it to live.

It won't.


i really hope that
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  • Dentarg
  • 6. Re: The Reasn the 2v2 change is good.   19/06/2009 03:03:30 PDT
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They believe everything what is said on the patch notes which isnt even on ptr yet



i too really hope that
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  • Ghostlands
  • 7. Re: The Reasn the 2v2 change is good.   19/06/2009 03:03:51 PDT
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It amazes me anyone actually thinks this change will make it to live.

It won't.


On the other hand, if you don't spam Blizzard with how stupid they are, they might just not realise that it's a bad change?

"Our design has evolved for LK, and we want cats to be doing similar dps to say warriors, paladins and shamans, bears to be able to MT, and for Feral to be viable as a PvP spec"

ROFL.
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  • Stormscale
  • 8. Re: The Reasn the 2v2 change is good.   19/06/2009 03:05:25 PDT
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It amazes me anyone actually thinks this change will make it to live.

It won't.


Il be happy if it s true, coz i love wow tbh, but the pvp side of it and 2v2 is my fav, even tough matches can take 20 mins.

its so awsome to just jump on with you buddy , and pwn some noobs lol.


im a shaman i get stuned and kilted all day long
im a shaman who gets destroyed in all situations
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  • Stormscale
  • 9. Re: The Reasn the 2v2 change is good.   19/06/2009 03:09:04 PDT
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meh i guess wow is changing.

slowly eliminating the subscribers?

to get get readdy for the new blizz online game.

Personaly i hope its a sort of

HALO MMO, 1ST PERSON SHOOTER, WITH PVE AND PVP, WOULD BE AWSOME, SAME GEAR BUILDING TALENT POINTS AND CLASSES N SUCH.

FAST GUN CLASSES, BIG GUN CLASSES, MAYBE SOME MELE WEILDING CLASSES, POSSIBLY SOME SPELL CLASSES INSTEAD OF GUNS, AND EVEN A ROGUE TYPE CLASS ALL IN 1ST PERSON


WOOP WOOP .
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  • Stormscale
  • 10. Re: The Reasn the 2v2 change is good.   19/06/2009 03:09:46 PDT
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On the other hand, if you don't spam Blizzard with how stupid they are, they might just not realise that it's a bad change?


You're right, I completely agree that Blizzard are too dumb to actually realise how bad of a change this is.

Lets not be mistaken here.

2v2 is the absolute worst piece of %@#* bracket that has ever existed in any kind of semi/casual competitive game.

The bracket is almost completely devoid of skill, and is extremely poorly balanced. You get truly horribly bad players, playing horribly overpowered class (Death Knight, Ret Paladin, Resto Druid) literally facerolling (123) to victory.

The deserve nothing but disgust and comtempt.

However, saying that it would be a bad idea to remove it.

Personally, I play 2v2 with people who aren't in my 3v3 or 5v5, because it's something I can do when those people are offline, on this Rogue for example, if I teamed up with any of the 100 people who have whispered me in the 3 days this character has been on Stormscale, I'd be 2500+ on this Rogue, but instead I'm playing with a friend of mine who hasn't played WoW in along time, and I'm teaching them how to play the setup, and what to do against certain classes etc.

I've no doubt he'll eventally become a very good player.

However, remove a large part of the point in doing 2v2, and it becomes harder to do such a thing (since people would have to spend time leveling 3v3 teams, which obviously I can't really help with).

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormscale&n=Fl%C3%BDn
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  • Anachronos
  • 11. Re: The Reasn the 2v2 change is good.   19/06/2009 03:10:53 PDT
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I hear RMP / Cleave takes lots more skill than DK / resto...
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  • Dentarg
  • 12. Re: The Reasn the 2v2 change is good.   19/06/2009 03:11:06 PDT
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Cuz everything they said about Age of Conan was true aswell, they will spew the utmost to get people away from wow. They find the one reason why people would leave wow and say "HEY gois, come over here, we has it". I've been burnt by lots of MMO's employing the same tactics to get people away during big patches.

You know what the constant though is during all of these MMO's coming out during a slow or bad time in wow? They exploit the disenchanted in wow by making big promises that never come through and get you to pay for their launch whilst you slowly find out the grass was never greener, infact it was black with aids and wow is still better.

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  • Stormscale
  • 13. Re: The Reasn the 2v2 change is good.   19/06/2009 03:11:31 PDT
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I hear RMP / Cleave takes lots more skill than DK / resto...


Compared to Resto/DK, both Cleave and RMP take a godlike amount of skill.

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormscale&n=Fl%C3%BDn
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  • Stormscale
  • 14. Re: The Reasn the 2v2 change is good.   19/06/2009 03:14:02 PDT
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I AGREE WITH YOU THAT 2v2 is unballanced and fotm are ruling it, but instead of just turning to 3v3 and having the same problems with cleave, ext,

try n fix 2v2???????

its easier to get into.
casuals like it
hardcore like it
fotm like it ( they are the ones that bring in a lot of cash for blizz constantly changing class therefor keeping up subscriptoions)
its more personal.
despite what people think - alot of classes can do well in it 1900+
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  • 15. Re: The Reasn the 2v2 change is good.   19/06/2009 03:14:09 PDT
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Compared to Resto/DK, both Cleave and RMP take a godlike amount of skill.


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  • Stormscale
  • 16. Re: The Reasn the 2v2 change is good.   19/06/2009 03:15:23 PDT
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try n fix 2v2???????


Try and jump into the sea out of a plane, 300km away from any form of land mass, and not get wet.

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  • Lightbringer
  • 17. Re: The Reasn the 2v2 change is good.   19/06/2009 03:16:43 PDT
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Lol, Aion. From what I've seen so far is that it's a glorified grinding game. Simpler quests than in WoW. No real story or purpouse. Only the looks and sound/music appear to be good.

If I'd ever leave it won't be for Aion, that's for sure.

The world is unfair. This game isn't different. Get used to it.

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  • Dentarg
  • 18. Re: The Reasn the 2v2 change is good.   19/06/2009 03:17:12 PDT
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I AGREE WITH YOU THAT 2v2 is unballanced and fotm are ruling it, but instead of just turning to 3v3 and having the same problems with cleave, ext,

try n fix 2v2???????

its easier to get into.
casuals like it
hardcore like it
fotm like it ( they are the ones that bring in a lot of cash for blizz constantly changing class therefor keeping up subscriptoions)
its more personal.
despite what people think - alot of classes can do well in it 1900+


For the majority of people who play arena on a high level they could fix 2v2 very easily but for blizzard staff who don't spend most of their time focusing on arenas they have a very vague idea of what the problems are and the right solutions from evidence over the last couple years. Since they have that experience gap they have decided to focus on 3v3 instead, which is good because they can balance that however they should hire more knowledgeable pvpers to fill the knowledge gap for them.

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http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Jaedenar&n=Cynik
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