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  • 0. Profession based Titles   02-Jun-2009 03:02:56 PDT
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Could there be Titles for reaching max level in a profession, you wonder? Maybe you'd like to help advertise your profession, maybe you're just wanting to display your pride for completing a profession's skill.

We regard Profession based Titles as a rather cool idea, but we're not certain that it'd be best implemented for "just" achieving maximum skill -- we might want there to be other requirements too. Either way, it is possible we may consider Titles like these in the future.

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  • 1. Re: Profession based Titles   02-Jun-2009 03:04:35 PDT
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Sounds cool
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  • 2. Re: Profession based Titles   02-Jun-2009 03:08:20 PDT
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Hmm that should be nice imo.
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  • 3. Re: Profession based Titles   02-Jun-2009 03:15:20 PDT
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'X the Tanner'

Craft Y amount of leatherworking pieces

'X the alchemist'

Craft Y amount of potions and elixirs

'X the enchanted'

Enchant the same piece of armour 50billion times because that is the easiest way to level lower skill enchanting :p

It does seem a good idea to add this in, because many a player spend wow purely doing professions. However it would be smart to try and make the achievement that bit harder so it's not a ,(for want of a better word) 'welfare' title, like Jenkins and The explorer are these days :)

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  • 4. Re: Profession based Titles   02-Jun-2009 03:16:46 PDT
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Sounds great.

Requirements could be :
Learn a certain amount of recipes
Made a certain amount of level 60/70 + items from that profession
Do a quest to prove you are a real "in my case alchemist"

Other things that could be cool:
When you got two gathering proffesions that you can get the Title "The Gatherer"
Maybe a special "I have the title" recipe ?

Edit
I assume that the title will be lost when one chooses to train another profession?




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  • 5. Re: Profession based Titles   02-Jun-2009 03:18:35 PDT
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Cool story bro


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  • 6. Re: Profession based Titles   02-Jun-2009 03:22:20 PDT
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I almost never log into the WoW forums to post except to update my guild's recruitment posts. I've done so now just because I think it's an awesome idea to add profession-based titles. I love Engineering, and to show off titles connected to it would be great :)

I'm thinking.. "Cogwhirl the Tinker," or maybe another level above that for "Master Tinkerer Cogwhirl" :)

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  • 7. Re: Profession based Titles   02-Jun-2009 03:22:42 PDT
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Loving it ...

Cant wait to find out more :) ...


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  • 9. Re: Profession based Titles   02-Jun-2009 03:36:22 PDT
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This is a very good idea.

But only jewelcrafting has the complexity to give an achievement as a title.
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  • 10. Re: Profession based Titles   02-Jun-2009 03:46:04 PDT
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I like this idea, just don't make them generic and boring...

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  • 11. Re: Profession based Titles   02-Jun-2009 04:08:22 PDT
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Sounds great!
Don't make it 2 easy tough , make it hard enough 2 be proud on the title

Would be nice if it isnt money dependant , so people with loads of cash will need 2 work for it 2.
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  • 12. Re: Profession based Titles   02-Jun-2009 04:11:17 PDT
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Can you give us more info about what the title may require please Mr Baby Crocolisk? :)

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  • 13. Re: Profession based Titles   02-Jun-2009 04:22:58 PDT
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Q u o t e:
Could there be Titles for reaching max level in a profession, you wonder? Maybe you'd like to help advertise your profession, maybe you're just wanting to display your pride for completing a profession's skill.

We regard Profession based Titles as a rather cool idea, but we're not certain that it'd be best implemented for "just" achieving maximum skill -- we might want there to be other requirements too. Either way, it is possible we may consider Titles like these in the future.


just add some achievements profession with a number of patterns learnt and it will be good

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  • 14. Re: Profession based Titles   02-Jun-2009 04:29:06 PDT
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I'm not really interested in the title since i wont take "the insane" off, until you nerf it to EZ mode. That said i just hope it will be a Feat of Strength or something like that else i will end up levelling each profession just for the achievement.
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  • Die Nachtwache
  • 15. Re: Profession based Titles   02-Jun-2009 04:53:42 PDT
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Great idea!

I know, it might not bet THAT hard to achieve (a lot harder than the occasional Jenkins, though), but it would add a LOT af flavour... a bit like those "of Capital City X" titles we see to show with which city you are most affiliated with.

From a RPers perspective:

Many people who are using RP flag addons already include their profession in their "title", such as "Master alchemist" "enchanter" "Paladin of the argent crusade and blacksmith" "experimental tinkerer" and so on. This is a sign for the weight of your character's profession and players enjoy it. A "common" title for all the professions might help to get around using the title flag in our addons.
Maybe this could even change if you reach a higher level of your profession. So you could go up from "apprentice alchemist" to "master alchemist" and "grand master alchemist"... now THAT would be nice, eh? :)

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  • 16. Re: Profession based Titles   02-Jun-2009 05:15:10 PDT
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I'd really love to see titles based on professions. I agree that 'just maxxing' a profession should not be enough to earn such a title. However, if there is a quest to be done, make sure that that quest is actually related to that proffession, and not testing something totally unrelated, for example your ability to get into some dungeon.

As an example of good and bad profession quests, lets compare the three alchemy specialization quests.

The elixir mastery quest, http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10902 , appropriately asks you to make some elixirs, but additionally tests you ability to succesfully visit Black Morass. What does the latter have to do with alchemy?

The potion mastery quest, http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10897 , appropriately asks you to make some potions, but additionaly tests your ability to succesfully visit Botanica. Once again, what does being able to visit that instance have to do with your skills in alchemy?

The transmutation mastery quest, http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10899, appropriately asks you to make 4 primal mights, and unlike the other mastery quests does not ask you to visit any dungeons. This is much better than the other quests in my opinion, though it is prone to simply 'buying' this mastery, because primal mights are not BoP and can be bought on the AH.

Players have the habit of choosing the path of least resistance to their goals. To avoid the possibility of simply 'buying' a profession title, yet still testing dedication to a profession and not some other skill, it should involve a quest that has all of the following properties:

  • the player must be at maximal skill (450)

  • the quest should involve the crafting of products made by that profession

  • doing the quest should take quite some time - the title should be a real time investment. There are two ways in which profession related taks can take time: the materials can take a long time to gather, or there can be cooldowns (or dailies) involved

  • ideally, materials required for the quest should be BoP; if they aren't, the quest would become a test of the player's buying skills

  • there should not be any dungeon involved, or other activities that require game skills that have nothing to do with that tradeskill.


  • One approach would be for instance to use tokens earned from profession dailies to buy the title - like the Chef's hat item is acquired right now. This would require adding dailies for all professions though.

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    • 17. Re: Profession based Titles   02-Jun-2009 05:22:08 PDT
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    It´s a thought that has been swirling in my head for a long time for professions.

    1) Achievements for max skill + recipes learnt + whatever additional thing fit
    => Profession specific title

    2) All recipes(ecluding specialization) or very close to all recipes of a profession
    => Feat of strength - Awarding the player with a "passive" title.
    When you mouseover such a player it will say "Grand Master xxx".

    The very interesting side of this, even thought it would only affect a handful of achievement gatherers:
    If you make a Feat that consists of getting ALL recipes a profession has - then you would enable players to switch/restore their profession by a GM - which arguably would sort some problems.
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    • 18. Re: Profession based Titles   02-Jun-2009 05:32:13 PDT
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    Learn a certain amount of recipes


    Sounds particularly reasonable. It should I think be a sufficient number to require some rep grinding or instance drops, in addition to having every freely available trainer/vendor pattern. Enough to push people into picking a few factions to gain rep with, without insisting that they do ALL factions ^^

    Or for gathering professions? Pick 10000 herbs? Mine 5000 mineral nodes?

    <Starhoof the Flowerpicker> sounds good to me :)


    Q u o t e:
    When you got two gathering proffesions that you can get the Title "The Gatherer"


    or "the Gold Farmer" or "is Richer Than You"? :)

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    • 19. Re: Profession based Titles   02-Jun-2009 05:35:29 PDT
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    Q u o t e:
    Could there be Titles for reaching max level in a profession, you wonder? Maybe you'd like to help advertise your profession, maybe you're just wanting to display your pride for completing a profession's skill.

    We regard Profession based Titles as a rather cool idea, but we're not certain that it'd be best implemented for "just" achieving maximum skill -- we might want there to be other requirements too. Either way, it is possible we may consider Titles like these in the future.


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