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  • 0. 12/05 Wintergrasp Quest Changes   12/05/2009 00:30:14 PDT
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In an effort to better balance the amount of players that are in Wintergrasp at any given time, we are changing the daily quests in Wintergrasp to a weekly format. This will result in an increase in the honor reward given by these quests as well as additional Stone Keeper's Shards. These quests will reset every Tuesday morning at 3:00 AM.

There are two known issues that may occur once these changes are pushed to live realms:
  • The quest mark will now show as gold, even though the quests are repeatable.
  • After the quests reset, players near the NPC quest givers may need to move out of the immediate area of interest in order for the quests to properly appear.

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  • Dragonmaw
  • 1. Re: 12/05 Wintergrasp Quest Changes   12/05/2009 00:37:11 PDT
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First!

I don't like these changes :(
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  • 2. Re: 12/05 Wintergrasp Quest Changes   12/05/2009 00:39:39 PDT
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Do we get sevenfold gold as well now, too?

Interesting. At level 80 the XP gain is replaced by reputation farming and a straightforward gear upgrade path through the heroic instances. Good job, Blizzard. It's fun here. :-)
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  • Lightbringer
  • 3. Re: 12/05 Wintergrasp Quest Changes   12/05/2009 00:41:21 PDT
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ooofff

A make or break change imo
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  • 4. Re: 12/05 Wintergrasp Quest Changes   12/05/2009 00:49:53 PDT
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Change the Wintergrasp battle to start every tuesday morning at 3 am on a weekly basis as well plox
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  • Ravenholdt
  • 5. Re: 12/05 Wintergrasp Quest Changes   12/05/2009 01:11:30 PDT
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The honor reward increase better be at least 5-fold instead of the 3-fold increase shown in screenshots floating around, if the increase stays 3-fold, it's a pretty huge nerf to overall honor income from WG. Or is this by design? Since you can't come up with "good enough" awards for battlegrounds to make them more appealing, you nerf the other options so suddenly battlegrounds don't look so horrible in comparison and are just "bad".

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  • Bloodscalp
  • 6. Re: 12/05 Wintergrasp Quest Changes   12/05/2009 01:24:10 PDT
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If these are weekly quest now these should give atleast the old rewardx5... Not old rewardx3.

I do these quests with my char nearly every day. Why you nerf the amout of honor gained from here? You want bg leechers again???

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  • 7. Re: 12/05 Wintergrasp Quest Changes   12/05/2009 01:27:41 PDT
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I think you can move a few people from WG-farming to BG farming without overpopulating the BGs, wouldn't you say?

Gutsy move, give it a week for everyone to get it and I think you'll see more "playable" WGs.

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  • Grim Batol
  • 8. Re: 12/05 Wintergrasp Quest Changes   12/05/2009 01:32:14 PDT
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[...]Why you nerf the amout of honor gained from here? You want bg leechers again???


Im quite sure this has nothing to do with the rewards. Its a way of trying to get less people in WG at any given time. This is much needed since, at least on Grim Batol, everytime there is a WG going on during "prime time" the rest of Northrend experience unplayable lag. With rewards not being available everyday they expect that the pvpers spread more throughout the week instead of grinding their daily everyday.


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  • 9. Re: 12/05 Wintergrasp Quest Changes   12/05/2009 01:37:14 PDT
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Please don't do this.
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  • Emeriss
  • 10. Re: 12/05 Wintergrasp Quest Changes   12/05/2009 01:39:45 PDT
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Stupid, Stupid, Stupid, Stuuuuuupid Change!

Why on earth would you ruin the fun for us, and remove the most interesting daily quests in the game?

And for gods sake why the honor equal less than 3 days of questing when its on WEEKLY bases?
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  • Bloodscalp
  • 11. Re: 12/05 Wintergrasp Quest Changes   12/05/2009 01:44:18 PDT
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If i'll get 88 gold + 21 stonekeeper for each then i'll be fine with the change.

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  • 12. Re: 12/05 Wintergrasp Quest Changes   12/05/2009 01:46:02 PDT
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Isn't this basically saying "We hope less people will play Wintergrasp everyday because they can't get the quest honor"?

If you assume that players only go to WG at least once per day to do the quests then what you are saying with this change is that you want to make WG less popular by making the quest weekly thereby reducing the numbers in WG.

Thats lame.
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  • 13. Re: 12/05 Wintergrasp Quest Changes   12/05/2009 01:46:47 PDT
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Q u o t e:


Im quite sure this has nothing to do with the rewards. Its a way of trying to get less people in WG at any given time. This is much needed since, at least on Grim Batol, everytime there is a WG going on during "prime time" the rest of Northrend experience unplayable lag. With rewards not being available everyday they expect that the pvpers spread more throughout the week instead of grinding their daily everyday.


Well nerfing the honor gain from wg so much might actually kill it. Everyone who doesn't need wg marks will go once a week, instead of 2-3times a day, which will result in almost no1 going to wg after Tuesday/Wednesday. I know they want to "FIX" the lag but don't you think killing wg is a bit too much?

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  • Al'Akir
  • 14. Re: 12/05 Wintergrasp Quest Changes   12/05/2009 02:11:44 PDT
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This is a good first step towards reducing the lag problems on high population servers. On servers like Al'Akir Wintergrasp battles usually bring down Northrend 5-10 times a week, sometimes multiple times in a row (servers of course rolling back and resetting the timer to 30 minutes). It's common to pause raiding during WG battles, as fighting bosses is just not fun with the ~2 second lag for spells and abilities. However, this change is just going to push most of the players to Wintergrasp on one or two days a week, which essentially makes the issue worse for those days. These people will either try to get their weeklies done on the last evening/night, or as soon after the reset as they can. People in need of the Wintergrasp marks will obviously do as many battles as they can. With all of the mains having the weeklies done and no need for more Wintergrasp marks, alts will swarm in to the battles. With worse gear the level of both normal and vehicle combat (upcoming siege weapon scaling) will drop dramatically.

tl;dr: Thanks for trying to help us, please do it better next time.
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  • 15. Re: 12/05 Wintergrasp Quest Changes   12/05/2009 02:12:12 PDT
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Q u o t e:
If i'll get 88 gold + 21 stonekeeper for each then i'll be fine with the change.


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Well nerfing the honor gain from wg so much might actually kill it. Everyone who doesn't need wg marks will go once a week, instead of 2-3times a day, which will result in almost no1 going to wg after Tuesday/Wednesday. I know they want to "FIX" the lag but don't you think killing wg is a bit too much?


couldnt have said that better myself

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  • Boulderfist
  • 16. Re: 12/05 Wintergrasp Quest Changes   12/05/2009 02:22:31 PDT
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Why weekly and not once every 3 days? On most servers, I have a hard time seeing that there'd be more than 3-4 "bad" WGs a day due to raids, RL and whatnot as people push to get the dailies done before raids or whatever. If removing the dailies actually push people out of WG who would not have gone there without the dailies, then once every 3 days should be entirely sufficient to drop the amount of players below the treshold?

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  • 17. Re: 12/05 Wintergrasp Quest Changes   12/05/2009 02:28:17 PDT
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I already have full furious so for me personal the lesser honor gained doesnt hit me 'that' hard, but the loss of money gained is just stupid. Some do WG 3 times a day every week and the amount of gold that you lose from dailies turning into weeklies without increase is huge.

Just make WG instanced to remove the lag problems? Instead of ruining the fun of it. Now a lot of people will only do it once a week and the battleground will be a lot less fun on lower pop realms.

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  • 18. Re: 12/05 Wintergrasp Quest Changes   12/05/2009 02:32:47 PDT
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Q u o t e:
Why weekly and not once every 3 days? On most servers, I have a hard time seeing that there'd be more than 3-4 "bad" WGs a day due to raids, RL and whatnot as people push to get the dailies done before raids or whatever. If removing the dailies actually push people out of WG who would not have gone there without the dailies, then once every 3 days should be entirely sufficient to drop the amount of players below the treshold?


This would definately have been the way I voted. 3 x the honor and the dailies become every 3 days. Weekly is too infrequent have a horrible feeling it will really start to kill WG plus the honour nerf of course for those who do the dailies every day (3 x instead of 7 times on 4 dailies is a severe nerf to the maximum possible)
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  • Scarshield Legion
  • 19. Re: 12/05 Wintergrasp Quest Changes   12/05/2009 02:36:42 PDT
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wanna increase gold earned as well? it's sort of a large part of my daily quest income ;p.

don't really see how this will 'fix' wintergrasp tho. looks like flawed logic to me.

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