can i say fail?

googles still let me look far in the distance, don't you think it's time to put an end to this?

also a guy from the us server had a brilliant idea to balance the rocket

When activated, the rockets will remove the gem from your glove socket, and fire it at the targeted enemy, dealing 1850-2100 physical damage. This ability is mitigated by armor, may be dodged/parried/blocked, and will not effect jewelcrafters, who may catch the gem and sell it on the Auction House.
We feel this will add a useful economic synergy as well, as characters with Engineering will have to replace a gem every 45 seconds.


pretty sure engen will be fixed "roguish way" adding a random +dmg somewhere... lame, really lame



edit. normally i don't whine in such manner on the forums, but this time you really went too far, make it a secondary prof and never talk again about it. People will forget and life will go on.

it's pretty obvious you can't handle it, just admit the fail and delere/demote it

Hey i can still use my boots in IF when I want to get from mail box to AH faster weeeeeeeeeee ...... isnt that great?

tip for free for blizz(Cleavecrawler)
make eng do Nitro boots(ench item that enchant your boots some thing like "Titanium Weapon Chain" from bs) if you do you cant complain about need to reroll porfesion for it

New! Schemetic: Memory Ray
Shines a high powered light into your eyes scrambling your brains internal workings. In the process your engineering profession is replaced by another profession..
".....at least thats what its supposed to do but of course this wouldnt be engineering if it didnt have a chance to fail"

I leveled up engineering on monday.


fml

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Hey i can still use my boots in IF when I want to get from mail box to AH faster weeeeeeeeeee ...... isnt that great?

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beeing able to sell stuff faster than other players could seriously affect in-game economy. We're thinking about different ways to balance it, as soon we decide you will discover it directly on the field, no announcement will be made and no reasons/refound will be added.

Make the boosts a tinker that can be cast on other players too. Increase the reagent cost and this way everyone can get it and the people that rolled engineering can make some nice money from it also.

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can i say fail?

googles still let me look far in the distance, don't you think it's time to put an end to this?

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Eh? Google is the best thing for looking around the internet. Why would you put and end to it? Are you some kind of a yahoo fan boy?!

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After several attempts to balance the Nitro Boots ability in the arena, we have decided that we currently do not have an acceptable solution. Until we are able to better balance this ability it has been shut down in the arenas. We fully plan to continue working on this item to ensure that it is still worth the investment made in it and we intend to adjust it in upcoming patches.

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Ok you changed it, big deal. What annoys me though to a great length is that you don't seem to treat us with any respect, reading from the american forum and somewhat here the responses more or less are in a somewhat childish manner, the way you comfort your kid. If you do make a post, please take a moment to address us in a manner that doesn't patronize us.

Furthermore, all these attempts, couldn't you have at least made them available? A fix like this can't really be hotfixed in the last minute, it is just insulting. I am actually insulted on an intellectual level. Thanks, didn't know that came with the monthly subscription, guess I didn't uncheck the verbal abuse button.

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After several attempts to balance the Nitro Boots ability in the arena, we have decided that we currently do not have an acceptable solution.

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KEK.

Try harder, thank you

At least something fun in the patch.

thats how u balance rocket boots in arena blizz, give it to everyone!
2sec duration for non engineers and 3sec for engineers.

or

BOE enchant 2sec duration for engineers and also a minor statbonus such as the already implemented crit or a minor passive movement increase for those that have engineering

damn the solution is really 5minute of thought away stop yibbediyabbin i dont want to reroll profession on ALL my chars im already broke as hell QQ

Awww damn was 43 levels to slow to enjoy nitro boots hurry up and fix it :P so I can still make this gal engin & j/c.

So...you expect people to do arena's with a useless tinker on their boots while you think about alternatives ?

I understand why engineering causes you headaches in terms of PvP (after all NPC's never complain...or do they ?) but maybe that means you have to rethink what you want to do with the profession instead of nerfing every single slightly useful "perk".

To be honest I don't understand the need for the sudden nerfs to engineering (stealth detection removed from goggles and now the nitro boots) while you don't disable racial abilities in arena's.

You should also consider making it impossible to add enchantments, armorkits, gems, tinkers, etc.. to PvP gear (and disable all trinkets while PvP in on). That way no one will feel forced to take any profession for PvP.

If you want to balance classes in PvP...start by balancing the classes themselves and just remove racial abilities and professions from the equation until the classes are balanced. Everyone who has had a little bit of math at school should know it's easier to solve an equation with 10 variables than it is with 1000.

Its so typical blizzard, it have happened plenty of time before, they lack of skill to balance something / going to the easy solution, they announced that they will try to balance it over the next patch but that are probably months away and the final result will be .. as expected.

Edit : YES , I do understand the reason for it and I accept it, whats annoying is that now I have to enchant it with something else, blizzard should have an replacement for it ready.

Yes this really is a big let down... It lacks justification anyway.

I am one of the (very many) people who dropped a (now more useful) proffesion to level engineering for the extra bit of competitiveness in arena.

Engineering is by no means going to make or break an arena team, and you can easily perform well without it, despite it being the best pvp proffession.

But what's wrong with that? It's unfair to the people who don't have engi? Well everyone had the same choices when it came to proffessions, and everyone has the same chance to drop one to level another. As such everyone who WANTED that extra edge in arena could easily get it.

So what then? It's unfair to people who don't have enough money to level engineering? Well that's flawed too, everyone has to spend time farming honour to gear up a character for pvp, whether they're aiming for battlegroup first or just want to play casually. I don't see why it should be a problem to spend some time getting the gold to level a proffession that will help you in arena.

I could understand it if the reason for disabling it was because it provided a mechanic to classes that shouldn't have it, a disc priest is not meant to be able to kite effectively, and nitro boots give me that option. But even that's rediculous, ALL classes benefit equally from nitro boots.

So the only thing that's left is engi being overpowered in pvp compared to the other proffessions. Yes indeed that is completely true, but not by a huge amount. Bear in mind that engineering is the only proffession that actually costs you stats. Rocket boots, on their own, are rediculously good. Rocket boots, when the fact that I lose 15 stamina and 8% move speed (or alternatively the 600 mana proc from my meta because I replace it with the movespeed meta) is good, definitely better than other proffessions for pvp (but not gamebreaking), but when my boots are on cd that loss of movespeed hurts.

So all of this is all well and good, I could understand the nerf to boots, I do appreciate that you have said that you're working on a fix for them... but what about the next few weeks?
I now have a completely useless proffession (let's face it, rocket gloves or hyperspeed accelerators are barely worth the 28 spellpower loss) for the next few weeks, until you bring in a fix for boots. Doesn't that mean that I have a disadvantage now, in the context of all other possible proffessions?

YES it does, I have as much of a disadvantage now, as I had an advantage with nitro boots (which was pretty much cancelled out by the fact that almost all 2k+ teams are happy to level engi to get them)

But guess what I'm going to do about it? I'm going to drop engineering and level something more useful, and if/when engineering gets fixed I'll see if it's worth picking it up... and if it is, I will drop whatever proffession I've just leveled and pick it up again... 3 proffessions brought up to 400 in a few weeks, because that's just what I have to do to be competitive, and I'm very happy to do it.

But if you're happy for me to have to level 3 proffessions, what's wrong with nitro boots? Am I being forced to drop engineering (to be competitive) because the casual pvper can't be expected to pick it up? I think that's a fairly backwards mentality for the highest level of pvp content in the game.

But all of this could be resolved with one simple statement. IF there had been a not in a patch 3-4 weeks ago saying that you were looking for a way to balance nitro boots for arena... not a single person would've complained... instead all you're doing is forcing the competitive pvpers to burn a bunch of gold, while the casual pvpers don't really notice the difference (Hell the ones who have engineering just by chance will not level a new proffession anyway)

In short: I fail to see how this change will have any effect on competitive or casual pvp (other than competitive pvpers being down 2-3k gold) But if anyone would care to explain it to me, go ahead.

Dear Blizzard,
I study law and among the first things one learns is the importance of that change in society (or in communities for that matter) is to be predictable. Is there any such values in WoW?

I like less than half of the "cool" things you add, but adding new things and chaning things that has been around for at least season is not the same thing. The nitro boots was added and it got an early nerf due to that it was too powerful (5sec down to 2sec). I admit it was way too powerful and the change was just.

Since then, nitro boots have not been a subject of (official) debate and it has been THE reason to roll engineering for pvpers. If you are unsure about something you just added, clearly state that "!!this is subject to change!!", not just wake up one morning and "lol, you know what would be very cool..". A lot of people has put time and effort into leveling engineering for the sole reason of using it in the arena. Now eningeering is close to useless (unless you like to throw 1.5k dmg bombs in BGs lol).

The way you are handling things at present time, you don't give players a chance to adjust. It is pure dumb luck if your class happens to be the OP class of the month or if your professions happen to be useful at all. Unlearning a profession and start to grind a new one is not the solution either, because again a member of the dev.team wakes up and "hey man, you what would be über cool...".

I am losing the little faith I still got.