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I guess they've been rather unlucky the past 5 years then..

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I played Warrior in middle TBC, and I loved it, Protection and PvP Arms.

Hench why I rolled one again.
Blizz have done well done with the Warrior, sadly their customers want their Lollipop back.

I think it should be quite obvious, if blizzard didn't make changes to classes, and made it quite balanced and kept it that way, no one would continue to play the game because it would be to repetitive and no variation. Which would result in gamers losing their interest in the game.

As it is now, people constantly hope for good buffs to their class next patch, or remain good if they are that in the current patch. And that makes them continue to play in hope to get those new buffs.

So if blizzard stops making changes they lose money, and I bet that's something they don't want. ;)

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It is indeed true that we are looking into the possibility of giving a small DPS increase to Warriors. We are particularly looking at Arms Warriors at this moment in time, although we are aware that Fury Warriors might need a slight DPS increase as well.

We will of course let you know as soon as we are ready to share some more specific details on what changes we are looking into, but it should be said right now that you should not expect a massive damage increase.

We are looking into tweaking Warriors in a similar way as we tweaked Shamans with the Lightning Overload change: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=9164119519&sid=1

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On the issue of Fury, on the US forums it was posted by nerfing the TG talent by 10% it in reality gave us around 17% (iirc) damage nerf (Rage generation etc). Are the dev team aware of this and are these "slight" buffs going to be putting us back to where we were or just slightly higher than our current possiton?

does that mean they'll give sudden death more chance to proc and thus making ArP even more valuable? me is happy panda!

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On the issue of Fury, on the US forums it was posted by nerfing the TG talent by 10% it in reality gave us around 17% (iirc) damage nerf (Rage generation etc). Are the dev team aware of this and are these "slight" buffs going to be putting us back to where we were or just slightly higher than our current possiton?

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The man just said that we'll know more when they're ready to tell us more. ;)
And with the nerfs creation in the first place in mind I'd say they're aiming towards the second, ie slightly higher but not at the level we were. They nerfed fury for a reason, they just overdid it.

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It is indeed true that we are looking into the possibility of giving a small DPS increase to Warriors. We are particularly looking at Arms Warriors at this moment in time, although we are aware that Fury Warriors might need a slight DPS increase as well.

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Err, what ? arms got buffed, fury got nerfed, arms outdps's fury ... shouldn't it be the otherway around ?

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They nerfed fury for a reason, they just overdid it.

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hm...i'll think this way :

warriors are craB without top end gear, and they always were craB without end game content. When 0.18% of the warriors get the top mega end game content, they become competitive. Competitive. Not OP. So Blizz says : lets just make warriors the ONLY class which will require that to be competitive. And, let's nerf them so that our newest creation, the <12 DK class can be op, naked ! That is the reason. I really will never understand, why so destroying a class which is the most gear dependent of all classes ? and what performance will one Not-top-end-geared warrior bring to raid ? none ? so, when will that warrior get his top end gear, when 1 dk will outtank/outdps/outheal 5 warriors at the same time? Think of that way.

Not every1 RL thinks your "bring the player not the whatever" thought is right :)

kek ?

I don't seee why Blizz don't try and keep things simple for themselves and the players.

Arms is already a play style of "Ooooh, procc, which one? HIT IT". More proccs means we may end up being unable to use them all. Rage / time issues. So why not just buff MS a bit? Arms signature move could have its +damage content linked to AP perhaps? Or improved MS could also increase the crit chance on that one talent. MS is after all the signature move of Arms, and currently sucks a bit, from a damage point of view. Buffed MS would require the removal of the TfB healing debuff, (though not the spell damage) for some PvP balance.

Maybe improve Rend? Arms warriors have it up as close to 100% as they can manage. Fury won't use it as they will be in zerker stance.

Lots more options, nice and simple. So they will never be taken.

The TG nerf really shows how messed in the head some of these guys are. You create a talent that is specifiaclly meant to improve damage. You then build into that talent a way of decreasing damage. It's like building a c ar with one pedal to operate both brake and accelarator. Why didn't they just put an increased 5% miss chance on TG if they thought it was OP? Swinging 2 big ass weapons around could concievably make it harder for you to hit something. Just a flat damage decrease was stupid.

The lack of direction and thought behind class balancing is obvious. It all just seems so.... random. I am starting to thinkt hat Blizz really just don't care.

Making it viable to use swords and maces (with same good result as axes) in arms is all that I'd like to see.
(Just look at Abaddon [sword from Yogg-Saron normal], dream stats for arms, and still will be better to use some other axe due to Axe-Sword Mastery differency)
I'd suggest to help us, warriors, and make some noise about that, coz atm Masterys are broken.

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It is indeed true that we are looking into the possibility of giving a small DPS increase to Warriors. We are particularly looking at Arms Warriors at this moment in time, although we are aware that Fury Warriors might need a slight DPS increase as well.

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Think you mixed that up a bit :p

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We are looking into tweaking Warriors in a similar way as we tweaked Shamans with the Lightning Overload change: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=9164119519&sid=1

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Like .. TfB on 5 sec instead of 6 sec?! YAY!

Please..

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Making it viable to use swords and maces (with same good result as axes) in arms is all that I'd like to see.
(Just look at Abaddon [sword from Yogg-Saron normal], dream stats for arms, and still will be better to use some other axe due to Axe-Sword Mastery differency)
I'd suggest to help us, warriors, and make some noise about that, coz atm Masterys are broken.

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with certain gear Maces produce better results than Axes.

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I The TG nerf really shows how messed in the head some of these guys are. a flat damage decrease was stupid.

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i doubt if u made any determination at all? "hey guise lez nerf it %10 an see wat happens"

flat dmg nerf was the hardest option to foresee, and u simply neither cared nor thought of it

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Also from my experience and many will probably agree, feral druids are doing much more dps than an arms warrior. Seeing as a druid is also a hybrid class, don't you think we should be on par with them?

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GC announced that Ferals getting nerfed.

its only a SMALL buff so dont get happy yet.
Not that it will matter anyway cuss Blizzard hates Hybrids, we are not allowed to do good dps, makes me wonder why i even try to be DPS as Warrior when there are alot of other classes that can do my job alot better.
But why should i need to reroll if i want to DPS better? makes no sense to me at all.
Its ok for us having to reroll if we wanna DPS better but its not ok for a Pure DPS class to reroll if they want to play an other role?
When you first make your character if you make lets say a rogue for example you should be aware that DPS is all you can do FOREVER and it wont ever change, Its your fault for picking it if your planing to play an other role later on and is not a valid excuse for nerfing us, why punish the hybrids for it? not our fault they chose to be Rogue.
Bring the Player not the Class? yea right, we can all see how true that was.

Theres an awsome article that describes it all very well, i feel like im being treated very poorly and it annoys me alot that Blizzard do not treat all their costumers equally.
Heres the article: http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/15/feature/3006/The-Pures-vs-Hybrids-Debate.html

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GC announced that Ferals getting nerfed.

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Then again, Feral kitty dps should have the hardest rotation in the game, so yeah.

Don't compare good Kitty dps with bad warrior dps!

Huge interval, on both sides! =)

-Trauma, your bleeds can critically hit! There you got the fix.

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It is indeed true that we are looking into the possibility of giving a small DPS increase to Warriors. We are particularly looking at Arms Warriors at this moment in time, although we are aware that Fury Warriors might need a slight DPS increase as well.

We will of course let you know as soon as we are ready to share some more specific details on what changes we are looking into, but it should be said right now that you should not expect a massive damage increase.

We are looking into tweaking Warriors in a similar way as we tweaked Shamans with the Lightning Overload change: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=9164119519&sid=1

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I find it extremely weird that you want to look at Arms warriors first when they are the ones that do semi ok dps while fury is in the absolute bottom.. How can you be looking at Arms first?