Hello, I will edit this later but I'll try being somewhat constructive from start.

Fury is currently doing way to little DPS in raids.
The 10% dmg decrease on TG is just too much.
All raiding warriors are specced Arms.

I wish I wasn't saying this, but sadly Warriors are superseded by Death Knights in almost every way now thanks to needless deep nerfing.

Go arms or stay home.

make the class a bit more compitative.

Out classed by DK in every way possible and to add to the wound its now clear rets also do much more dps than dps warriors could ever do.

delete the post if u want but its the reality. Prot warrs have no place in this expansion. All the other 3 tanks classes perform much more in almost all aspect of this game... To be slighlty in the game warriors need to spamm certain abilties in certain times. there is absolute no reason to value a warrior tank anymore.

As of dps, dont get me started. this may seem a QQ post you know what its the truth. Bring back the glory days of the fury warrior and u know what u will never see any post such as (OUR DPS IS TOO LOW) ever again. fury isnt OP, its just compitative. if thats not possible nerf the nerf u implmented. 10% is way too much as every single decent warrior knows.

As of pvp warrs i rlly apreciate you finnaly figured out how to fix our class. i can safly say our class is as good as any other right about now. but this still doesnt change the fact warriors need to work twice or triple times as much to get the results. This is also not a bad thing, it makes your game play much more exciting.

I disagree with protection warriors being unwanted in the game, ok we're not the highest tps tanking class in the game, although a smartly geared warrior could easily keep up in threat to any other class, but our threat isnt so low that we're actually working to stay above hunters or warlocks threat so whats the problem?

A protection warrior brings a lot more utilities to a progressing raid than any other class in my opinion. we have a lot more cooldowns at our disposal to help the healers through new encounters which afterall is what a tank does, holds aggro while taking minimal damage, and we do this well, ok so maybe a paladins holy shield gives them instant win mitigation, but they only have 2 cooldowns per boss fight, maybe 3 if righteous defense is used early into a fight. Deathknights i dont really know about but i would say theyre overall mitigation is worse than a warriors since 3.1, and druids are just sponges who as my experience as a healer arn't a joy to keep alive.

I get that everyone's annoyed by the badly thought out, massive unjusifiable fury nerf.

However, I suspect this thread is supposed to be for advice on stuff, not communication with the devs, so complaining about it here will likely to even less than usual.

Then again, they might notice if the entire thread is 'for the light's sake, don't spec fury! It's unplayable now!'.

The fact that 90% of the dps specced warriors are "pvp" specced should say a thing or two, the nerf to fury was just too much.

I'd say go with 2 spec's on your duel talent:

Take a prot spec so u can be useful on the trash if needed or if another tank d/c's.

And for your other spec take a pvp arms spec. you can slow adds with peircing howl. Do ALOT more damage than fury (cause fury is screwed) . This way you can still pvp out side the instance and get an ok damage.

If you spec fury your just in it, to ninja two 2h weapons. (+ since we are gear depended and the 10% hits us harder the better are gear gets, we get less bonues from gear in other words.)

Go Arms/prot

Stop whining.

The 10% tg nerf was indedd a bit harsh, but if you know what you are doing and get a few ulduar items you will be fine. I've been both arms and fury and have raided entire ulduar, in the beginning I was worried that the nerf would kill fury. In fact, on the multi add fights like Razorscale, Thorim, Mimimiron, and Yogg-saron you will be on the top of the meter. Just get WW glyph, Cleave glyph, and spec imp cleave and you will be fine. We aren't supposed to be top single target dpsers anyways, but we still are above the other hybrids. You also bring the rampage buff and should be dual prot specced for those fights that require an extra tank.

Once you are decked out in Ulduar gear you will be overpowered again, they still havnt normalized rage and warriors scale oh so well with gear.

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Once you are decked out in Ulduar gear you will be overpowered again, they still havnt normalized rage and warriors scale oh so well with gear.

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No because everyone else will also be in Ulduar gear and everyone scales with gear (warriors just happen to be completely dependant on it).

Im not quite sure what this post serves as, since it will mostly be commented on by ppl who belives that this will be read by a blue poster and then sees a chance to actually get their voices heard rather than supply much needed info to the warriors who belives they are actually worthless.

Truth be told, warriors are in an exellent condition, warriors arent a gimped class, we are as a matter of fact very powerfull.
Alot of threads about Ulduar raiding, warrior utility and various comments of deathknights being superior, has been spread around this forum.

While these comments are in some cases true, i cannot side with the statement that deathknights are to warriors like superman is to butterflies.

Some warriors tend to lean against a playstyle that only revolves around maintanking and dpsing as much as possible.

lets think about something for a second, as a warrior your dps is somewhat average (depending on your gear sync and skill), and some warriors use thier lowered dps to serve other purposes like observation purposes, in which Ulduar has alot of needs.

You could see a warrior as having his ideal enviorment in combat, but not only as the raging beserker in the front line, but the observant player who can be put in charge of emergencies, im ofc referring to the sort of moments where charge has to be taken, and saving more fragile players from an add, help sucking up dmg or simply take up a role which arent needed to be done by a tank, and can be done by any class with a high base health.

you could argue that this role can be filled by almost any plate wearer, and a ret pala or deathknight could just as easily do these things, so what is the difference?

The difference between warriors, rets, ferals and deathknights is simple, we can still supply our raid utility while not dpsing all the time, we can allow ourselves to stop dpsing, focus on something else, and then move back without the raid has to pay for the absence of our dps, buffs or debuffs.

as a dps warrior, i dont have trouble with keeping my raid spot for the reason that i try and use every aspect of my warrior as possible, choosing the most beneficial approach for a raid is always a winner, even sucking up "bomb bots" on Mimiron by tauning them to only where im standing in def stance to avoid additional raid dmg in a control phase.

my best advice to any dps warrior out there is simply, dont tunnel vision on dpsing, use your mobility, abilities and high base health as a tool to prevent deaths, stress on healers and to increase the efficientcy of any role being performed in a raid setting.
once you realise just what a gr8 tool warriors rly is, then you can rly change the outcome of an encounter by simply assuming roles that doesnt revolve around dpsing only.

im with Lobbe ^-^
but still we can out dps anyone if we get the gear and try real hard ^^
one tip for dps warrs is dual spec some bosses suits fury like razorscale
some are beter as arms like Xt-002 dps boss and the use BS on scrap bots ^^
have only downed 9 bosses in 10 and 3 in 25 but its usefull to have dual spec :P

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Go arms if you have an axe or stay fury.

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Fixed.

Mortal strike should not be talented in your rotation unless doing PvP.

Slam ability is far more a efficient dps skill with very slow weapon then with mortal strike.

The rotation is like this:
Rend, Sunder (manually since reset timer does'nt work) Else
/castsequence Rend, Mortal Strike, Mortal Strike. Mortal Strike

/castrandom Overpower, Slam, Execute
/targetenemy [noharm][dead]
/startattack

Enjoy.

Whats wrong with all the people trying to macro every single thing?
Learn to play already, you will enjoy the game more.

Ofcourse, you cannot use macros effectively in PvP anyway.
In PvE macros helps fight latency problems, distractions and focus on other things rather then dps.

Example:
thaddius - you cant keep mashing buttons, you'll miss the polarity shift and every second counts.
malygos - a tank cant move malygos away from sparks unless he has something generating agro while moving.
KT - most people die from shadow fissures for mashing action buttons and not paying attention to thier surroundings. (cause everyone wants to focus thier dps to top the dps meter)

Macros are essential.

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Example:
thaddius - you cant keep mashing buttons, you'll miss the polarity shift and every second counts.
malygos - a tank cant move malygos away from sparks unless he has something generating agro while moving.
KT - most people die from shadow fissures for mashing action buttons and not paying attention to thier surroundings. (cause everyone wants to focus thier dps to top the dps meter)

Macros are essential.

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Im both Immortan and Undying and alot of other things and the only macro i use is "/tar Dark Rune Evoker" for Thorim..

As i said, learn to play, its more fun that way.