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  • 0. 15/11 Questions and answers about PvP in TBC   15/11/2006 01:18:00 PST
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Players: Will we still be able to buy any Honour System rewards that we could've with the old system (for example, can I buy the rank 5 bracers, even after the system resets)?
Blizzard: All of the current rewards will be available in the new system.

Players: Will there be all new PvP rewards and/or are old ones being redone?
Blizzard: New BG rewards up to level 70. All the Arena rewards will be new.

Players: Are the Arena rewards separate from Honour rewards?
Blizzard: Yes.

Players: Will our current reputations with the Battlegrounds be reset? (Example - my 45 shaman is honoured with WSG and AB, if I don't PvP with them from now till BC launches, will I still be honoured?)
Blizzard: No. Reputation will be left as is, but because of the reward system change, will not have the same value or meaning.

Players: Are there any plans to limit twinking in the expansion, or make it harder for them to get honour? As I see it now, what’s to stop people from sitting at 19/29/etc and pooling honour till they can buy anything with it (if that is how the honour system will work).
Blizzard: Not at this time. We find it to be a viable player-generated approach to BGs. Level requirements of items is likely to prevent the scenario you mentioned. It wasn't really the case in the current setting, so that will likely remain the same.

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  • Korialstrasz
  • 1. Re: 15/11 Questions and answers about PvP in    15/11/2006 01:23:16 PST
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First? omg!

"Blizzard: No. Reputation will be left as is, but because of the reward system change, will not have the same value or meaning. "

Mm that could suck, couldnt the rep rewards remain the same?

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  • 2. Re: 15/11 Questions and answers about PvP in    15/11/2006 01:35:21 PST
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Noes! I was so clooose.

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  • 3. Re: 15/11 Questions and answers about PvP in    15/11/2006 02:09:15 PST
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Hmmm... quite usefull that information for people like me who pretty much dont have a clue about the BC pvp :)

Friends come and go, but epics are 'binds on pick up'.
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  • 4. Re: 15/11 Questions and answers about PvP in    15/11/2006 03:22:01 PST
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-.-
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  • 5. Re: 15/11 Questions and answers about PvP in    15/11/2006 03:24:35 PST
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Are the reputation rewards, aswell as the honour rewards, still available to purchase in TBC? If so, will they be lumped with the honour reward items now that reputation has little impact on equipment?
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  • Ysera
  • 6. Re: 15/11 Questions and answers about PvP in    15/11/2006 03:49:29 PST
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Q u o t e:
Players: Will we still be able to buy any Honour System rewards that we could've with the old system (for example, can I buy the rank 5 bracers, even after the system resets)?
Blizzard: All of the current rewards will be available in the new system.


Is the same true for reputation rewards. I am already Honord WSG, but will I be able to buy the lvl28, 39, 49 etc Honored reward items ?
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  • Kul Tiras
  • 7. Re: 15/11 Questions and answers about PvP in    15/11/2006 04:38:01 PST
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I have a question:

Obviously we have to be level 70 to use them, but can we we buy the level 70 pvp items when we're >70?
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  • 8. Re: 15/11 Questions and answers about PvP in    15/11/2006 05:00:49 PST
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question: will our courrent honor kills (pre BC) br converted into honor marks when the expansion comes out?
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  • 9. Re: 15/11 Questions and answers about PvP in    15/11/2006 05:06:16 PST
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Yes that is a very interesting question and i would love to see it answered.
As this issue have made me totaly skip bg's and rep grinding for the time beeing.
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  • 10. Re: 15/11 Questions and answers about PvP in    15/11/2006 05:10:13 PST
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Do we receve experience when we win one arena?
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  • 11. Re: 15/11 Questions and answers about PvP in    15/11/2006 05:11:45 PST
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Q u o t e:
Players: Will we still be able to buy any Honour System rewards that we could've with the old system (for example, can I buy the rank 5 bracers, even after the system resets)?
Blizzard: All of the current rewards will be available in the new system.


Could you be more specific ? Will the current rewards still be available under same conditions as in old PvP system or will they become available against the new honor points only ?


Q u o t e:
Players: Will our current reputations with the Battlegrounds be reset? (Example - my 45 shaman is honoured with WSG and AB, if I don't PvP with them from now till BC launches, will I still be honoured?)
Blizzard: No. Reputation will be left as is, but because of the reward system change, will not have the same value or meaning.


Does it mean we will still be able to buy, say, the Unstoppable force for 140G once we get exalted in AV ? Or not ?
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  • Stormrage
  • 12. Re: 15/11 Questions and answers about PvP in    15/11/2006 06:17:37 PST
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q1 I assume those rumors are false but some people say that the honor system will be rewoked before the launch of BC, is that true? if it is true when will it be?

q2 Is it possible to rank up / progress on the same week as that patch comes or will that honor go wasted?

q3 Will Rank and progress on rank before patch be rewarded in some way?

q4 Will there still be ranks? can you gain rank like you gain rep? can theoretical half of the server be rank 14 at the same time?

q5 Will there still be titles? Will players forever have the title they had before patch or will there be no titles? Will it be possible that on a server it can be dozens with the title HW?

q6 Lets say I get exhalted with all bg:s before the launch of the patch - but I haven't enought gold to buy all rewards. Finally I get enought gold - but then the patch have launched before. Can I still buy those BG rewards for gold only even after patch?, or do I have to pay as much honor tokens like those that was not exhalted before patch?

q7 Will any rank / bg rewards be added, removed or upgraded (I am thinking about lvl 60 items, and not the arena items or lvl 70 rewards.)?

q8 The new system work like this: You get way much less honor from kills than before. And all rank items will be set to a certain price lets say one rank 12 piece costs 100k honor (this will be much honor and not farmed on a week when patch releases) . Over some weeks I gather up honor and it won't decay. Honor is now like gold - you store the honor and buy special epics for them.

Is this description correct? If not, how is the new system working?

EDIT: added some on q6

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  • 13. Re: 15/11 Questions and answers about PvP in    15/11/2006 06:33:06 PST
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Q u o t e:
q1 I assume those rumors are false but some people say that the honor system will be rewoked before the launch of BC, is that true? if it is true when will it be?


Honor System Revamp
Current honor totals have been reset.
Players may display their highest lifetime rank title (accessible from character sheet).


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q2 Is it possible to rank up / progress on the same week as that patch comes or will that honor go wasted?


The honor points is reseted and there for you have this

Honor points earned each day may now be spent as a form of currency. Check the PvP tab of your character sheet to see your honor information.


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q3 Will Rank and progress on rank before patch be rewarded in some way?


I dont think so since honor is reseted and you will only keep your actual rank as title


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6 Lets say I get exhalted with all bg:s before the launch of the patch - but I haven't enought gold to buy all rewards. Can I still buy those BG rewards even after patch?


The rewards will still be there but you will need honor points aka tokens to buy them if not mistaken


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q7 Will any rank / bg rewards be added, removed or upgraded (I am thinking about lvl 60 items, and not the arena items or lvl 70 rewards.)?


I dont think so


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q8 The new system work like this: You get way much less honor from kills than before. And all rank items will be set to a certain price lets say one rank 12 piece costs 100k honor (this will be much honor and not farmed on a week when patch releases) . Over some weeks I gather up honor and it won't decay. Honor is now like gold - you store the honor and buy special epics for them.

Is this description correct? If not, how is the new system working?


The best way to do this is try to test it on the PTR that is up but i dont no the answer for your last question




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  • Korialstrasz
  • 14. Re: 15/11 Questions and answers about PvP in    15/11/2006 12:10:25 PST
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Q u o t e:
q1 I assume those rumors are false but some people say that the honor system will be rewoked before the launch of BC, is that true? if it is true when will it be?

q2 Is it possible to rank up / progress on the same week as that patch comes or will that honor go wasted?

q3 Will Rank and progress on rank before patch be rewarded in some way?

q4 Will there still be ranks? can you gain rank like you gain rep? can theoretical half of the server be rank 14 at the same time?

q5 Will there still be titles? Will players forever have the title they had before patch or will there be no titles? Will it be possible that on a server it can be dozens with the title HW?

q6 Lets say I get exhalted with all bg:s before the launch of the patch - but I haven't enought gold to buy all rewards. Finally I get enought gold - but then the patch have launched before. Can I still buy those BG rewards for gold only even after patch?, or do I have to pay as much honor tokens like those that was not exhalted before patch?

q7 Will any rank / bg rewards be added, removed or upgraded (I am thinking about lvl 60 items, and not the arena items or lvl 70 rewards.)?

q8 The new system work like this: You get way much less honor from kills than before. And all rank items will be set to a certain price lets say one rank 12 piece costs 100k honor (this will be much honor and not farmed on a week when patch releases) . Over some weeks I gather up honor and it won't decay. Honor is now like gold - you store the honor and buy special epics for them.

Is this description correct? If not, how is the new system working?

EDIT: added some on q6

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q8 The new system work like this: You get way much less honor from kills than before. And all rank items will be set to a certain price lets say one rank 12 piece costs 100k honor (this will be much honor and not farmed on a week when patch releases) . Over some weeks I gather up honor and it won't decay. Honor is now like gold - you store the honor and buy special epics for them.

duzil the prices on the things is not that high GM weapons and HW weapons 30k honor and 30 AV marks the rank 12-13 gear cost like 1.5k honor points itnst that high easy to get ;)
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  • 15. Re: 15/11 Questions and answers about PvP in    15/11/2006 12:41:05 PST
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Q u o t e:
question: will our courrent honor kills (pre BC) br converted into honor marks when the expansion comes out?
No, it's wiped.
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  • 16. Re: 15/11 Questions and answers about PvP in    16/11/2006 12:42:34 PST
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Q u o t e:
Players: Are there any plans to limit twinking in the expansion, or make it harder for them to get honour? As I see it now, what’s to stop people from sitting at 19/29/etc and pooling honour till they can buy anything with it (if that is how the honour system will work).
Blizzard: Not at this time. We find it to be a viable player-generated approach to BGs. Level requirements of items is likely to prevent the scenario you mentioned. It wasn't really the case in the current setting, so that will likely remain the same.


Im not sure if the above answers my question or not. I remember reading somewhere (i think) that you can only have a max number of arena points, equal to the highest costing item. This stops people from just saving and saving and saving. Does this also apply to honor points? Or can you "horde" ( ;) ) together as many honor points as you like?
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  • Khaz Modan
  • 17. Re: 15/11 Questions and answers about PvP in    17/11/2006 03:45:03 PST
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Please answer this.
What about Honor Tokens won from now till the patch.
Will we loose them or can we save them up to hand in for rewards after the patch?
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  • 18. Re: 15/11 Questions and answers about PvP in    18/11/2006 02:30:45 PST
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I have a TBC Beta account, so I just went to OG and Warsong Outriders to check up on the new costs:

The following screen is from one of the Hall of Heroes(?) vendors in OG:
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/3535/tbcpvprewardsav6.png

I've looked at the current High Warlord weapons. The number in front of the little Horde emblem is the amount of honour needed. I haven't been able to do any PvP yet, so I don't know how much quickly you can accumulate honour (saw a screen somewhere else where 200 ish bonus honour was awarded for winning a game of AB at lvl 60)
The other number is the amount of Marks of Honor needed.
Right now it looks like it's the same marks as we get atm, but that they will stack up to 100 instead of 20.

Then I payed the Outriders a visit:
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/1803/tbcfactionrewardsta8.png

You can now purchase the faction rewards in the same way as described above. No need for rep anymore.

Hope this helps a bit

Tanaki
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  • 19. Re: 15/11 Questions and answers about PvP in    18/11/2006 15:07:56 PST
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Q u o t e:
Does it mean we will still be able to buy, say, the Unstoppable force for 140G once we get exalted in AV ? Or not ?
No no, you're missing the point. Reputation is near to useless come the new reward system.

It means that now, you'll be able to save up the BG marks and use them, in conjunction with your honor, to purchase rewards - so gold isn't used. You don't have to be any reputation with AB/WSG/AV to get these rewards.

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