since i didnt see any post about this yet, these are the patch notes for hunter changes in 3.1 taken from Mmo-champion.com


Hunter (Skills List / Talent + Glyph Calc.)

* Frost Trap: If the target who triggers Frost Trap is immune to its effect, the Frost Trap area effect will no longer be triggered.


Talents
Beast Mastery

* Improved Aspect of the Hawk now has a new spell effect.
* Improved Wing Clip: This talent has been removed.


Marksmanship

* Piercing Shots re-designed: Your critical Aimed, Steady and Chimera Shots cause the target to bleed for 10/20/30% of the damage dealt over 8 sec.
* Ranged Weapon Specialization: Points reduced from 5 to 3, 1/3/5%.
* Wild Quiver: Chance increased to 4/8/12%, up from 4/7/10%. Damage increased from 50% of an auto shot, to 80%.


Survival

* Hunting Party: This talent has been reduced to 3-points, and now increases your total Agility by an additional 1/2/3%.
* Lock and Load re-designed: You now have a 33/66/100% chance when you trap a target with Freezing Trap, Freezing Arrow or Frost Trap and a 2/4/6% chance when you deal periodic damage with your Immolation Trap or Black Arrow to cause your next 2 Arcane Shot or Explosive Shot spells to trigger no cooldown, cost no mana and consume no ammo. This now has a new spell effect and sound.
* New Talent: Trap Launcher: When activated, your next Trap will be launched instantly at the enemy target. 1 minute cooldown.
* T.N.T. re-designed: Increases the damage done by your Explosive Shot, Explosive Trap and Immolation Trap by 2/4/6%, and gives your Explosive Shot a 33/66/100% chance to refresh the duration of your Immolation Trap effect on the target.
* Trap Mastery: This talent has been moved up to tier-2, up from tier-9.
* Wyvern Sting duration increased from 12 sec to 30 sec. PvP duration reduced from 10 sec to 6 sec.


Pets

* Roar of Sacrifice can be used on the hunter only.
* Stampede (rhino) only affects 1 target, but adds a 25% bleed damage debuff (that does not stack with Mangle etc.) in addition to its knockback.

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Update: some undocumented changes
Hunter
Beast Mastery
Skills

* *New Skill* Call Stabled Pet - A pet of your choice busts out of its stable and joins you no matter where you are, replacing your current pet. Cannot be used in combat. Instant. 30 min cooldown. Requires Level 80.


Marksmanship
Skills

* Kill Shot no longer has a minimum range. It can now be used in melee range.

Survival
Skills

* Disengage cooldown increased to 30 secs. (Previously was 25 secs)

Talents
* *New Talent* Black Arrow (Tier 9) - Fires a Black Arrow at the target, increasing all damage done by you to the target by 6% and dealing [ 10% of RAP + 785 ] Shadow damage over 15 sec. Costs 6% base mana. 5-35 yard range. Instant Cast. 30 sec cooldown.
* Sniper Training (Tier 9) has been changed to increase the critical strike chance of your Kill Shot ability by 5/10/15%, and while standing still for 6 sec., you gain Sniper Training increasing the damage done by your Steady Shot, Aimed Shot, Black Arrow and Explosive Shot by 2/4/6% Lasts 15 sec. (Previously increased damage and critical strike chance based on your range to the target)

* Improved Wing Clip has been removed from the game.

My thoughts:
Another "give and take away" move by Blizz.
I really doubt to see all of this go live or not end up being nerfed or nerfing other skills cause of that.
Also there goes less binds... more and more to come.
BM will stay behind MM and Surv by a bigger margin.
Overally I like those changes, but Im not getting hyped... (anyone remember camo?)
Id love to see some fixes to Kill Shot, Deterrence for ex. now.
Also finally TNT stun removed.

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Pets

* Roar of Sacrifice can be used on the hunter only.
* Stampede (rhino) only affects 1 target, but adds a 25% bleed damage debuff (that does not stack with Mangle etc.) in addition to its knockback.

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Wait, what? Stampede was the only reason I was going to take a Rhino pet for PvP -_-.
Now Rhino sounds marginally underpowered ...

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since i didnt see any post about this yet, these are the patch notes for hunter changes in 3.1 taken from Mmo-champion.com


Hunter (Skills List / Talent + Glyph Calc.)

* Frost Trap: If the target who triggers Frost Trap is immune to its effect, the Frost Trap area effect will no longer be triggered.


Talents
Beast Mastery

* Improved Aspect of the Hawk now has a new spell effect.
* Improved Wing Clip: This talent has been removed.


Marksmanship

* Piercing Shots re-designed: Your critical Aimed, Steady and Chimera Shots cause the target to bleed for 10/20/30% of the damage dealt over 8 sec.
* Ranged Weapon Specialization: Points reduced from 5 to 3, 1/3/5%.
* Wild Quiver: Chance increased to 4/8/12%, up from 4/7/10%. Damage increased from 50% of an auto shot, to 80%.


Survival

* Hunting Party: This talent has been reduced to 3-points, and now increases your total Agility by an additional 1/2/3%.
* Lock and Load re-designed: You now have a 33/66/100% chance when you trap a target with Freezing Trap, Freezing Arrow or Frost Trap and a 2/4/6% chance when you deal periodic damage with your Immolation Trap or Black Arrow to cause your next 2 Arcane Shot or Explosive Shot spells to trigger no cooldown, cost no mana and consume no ammo. This now has a new spell effect and sound.
* New Talent: Trap Launcher: When activated, your next Trap will be launched instantly at the enemy target. 1 minute cooldown.
* T.N.T. re-designed: Increases the damage done by your Explosive Shot, Explosive Trap and Immolation Trap by 2/4/6%, and gives your Explosive Shot a 33/66/100% chance to refresh the duration of your Immolation Trap effect on the target.
* Trap Mastery: This talent has been moved up to tier-2, up from tier-9.
* Wyvern Sting duration increased from 12 sec to 30 sec. PvP duration reduced from 10 sec to 6 sec.


Pets

* Roar of Sacrifice can be used on the hunter only.
* Stampede (rhino) only affects 1 target, but adds a 25% bleed damage debuff (that does not stack with Mangle etc.) in addition to its knockback.



hmm... black arrow, i wanna know what that one is, couldnt find it anywhere

so what are your thoughts.

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1. Improved Wing Clip is WHERE in BM tree?
2. Piercing Shots seems cool which can work with SS so be careful not to dot and Freeze Trap your foe
3. Wild Quiver has been improved, nice
4. LnL has been changed I think for the worse...
5. A new Talent called "throw trap" for Survival? Whatever... we already got Freezing Arrow... do we really need this talent?
6. Wyvern Sting... duration increased for pve and only lasts a couple of seconds for pvp... nothign different here then...
7. RoS and Stampede have bene changed so you can plan attacks more which is alright I guess...

im actually thinking they are buffing survival dps,
trap mastery and trap launcher make for quite a nice combo, especially if you can keep immolation trap up for as long as you like with the new T.N.T

BM isnt getting much love and MM is getting a buff aswell.

ill have to see what the PTR can give me for numbers

So Bm is getting nerfed again, nice. What the f... do they have against pets and BM?

BM isnt getting nerfed as far as i can see, but its being left behind, allthough i did read about pets getting a new tier of talents, which would be the BM bit since bm can get more pet talent points

Rhinps r getting nerfed. Rhinos are exotic pets. Exotic pets trainning is BM 51 talent point so yeah BM is getting nerfed.

*New Talent* Black Arrow (Tier 9) - Fires a Black Arrow at the target, increasing all damage done by you to the target by 6% and dealing [ 10% of RAP + 785 ] Shadow damage over 15 sec. Costs 6% base mana. 5-35 yard range. Instant Cast. 30 sec cooldown.


-Kill Shot no longer has a minimum range. It can now be used in melee range.

-Disengage cooldown increased to 30 secs. (Previously was 25 secs)

-Trap mastery is a 3 pointer

-*New Skill* Call Stabled Pet - A pet of your choice busts out of its stable and joins you no matter where you are, replacing your current pet. Cannot be used in combat. Instant. 30 min cooldown. Requires Level 80.


Black arrow seems like an extra dot for about ~1300ish shadow damage over 15 seconds


This is undocumented changes pulled directly from the game files.

From a PvP Surv hunter's perspective:

- Imp wingclip gone
- Wyvern sting cc lowered
- RNG Stunslol are gone (counts as a nerf even though I waited for this one ;] )
- RoS no longer works on others
- Replenishment
+ Trap Mastery Tier lowered
+ Trap Launcher
+ Black Arrow

Blizz 5 - 3 Hunter
I'd say we're more balanced now. No omgwtffaceslapnpalmnerfbatcrit. I'm happy with 3.1.0 :)

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So Bm is getting nerfed again, nice. What the f... do they have against pets and BM?

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What nerf? I don't see any nerf stop whining! Improved Wing Clip is a Survival talent in case you don't know your trees -.-'

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What nerf? I don't see any nerf stop whining! Improved Wing Clip is a Survival talent in case you don't know your trees -.-'

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i know wing clip is not in BM, exotic pets are. IT's a nerf, it's not whinnig it's stating the facts. Stop being rude to ppl without reason.

Look at what hit surv got and what bm got and you're complaining jeez. I'm not complaining for any of the nerfs they're all ok.

I think those "add ons" for hunters are getting bit out of control - the more news pops on mmo-c what we get. Really I like em all, but I think bit too much.

What?

BM and SV can't be compared.

Why not? BM was op with readiness, that got nerfed, then SV was op, now it's getting nerfed.

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Why not? BM was op with readiness, that got nerfed, then SV was op, now it's getting nerfed.

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I only see buffs to Surv.

SV is OK, not OP and BM is Overnerfed. So new nerf's to SV and BM , makes SV less OK and BM more overnerfed.

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Why not? BM was op with readiness, that got nerfed, then SV was op, now it's getting nerfed.

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Only "nerfs" to surv I see is the t.n.t stun, which shouldn't have been there in the first place, and the duration of wyvern in pvp.

no serpent procs on LnL is outweight by the black arrow procs.
If black arrow turns out to be a sting, which aint clarified yet, that might be a nerf to, since then noxious stings is pretty much useless.

Call me blind but I can't find this "trap launcher" talent anywhere in the Talent Calculators. Anyone can point me to it or has it been removed?