this is stupid. what does it matter if i live in f.x. france or iceland.. i live in iceland and im paying monthly for this game and cant acces everything there is to this game.... i was really looking forward to playing arena in this tournament but no... "sry.. iceland cant participate" wth??

Im posting this here because apperantly im not even eligible to post on the tournament forums...

Laws of certain countries prevent participating in the event

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Laws of certain countries prevent participating in the event

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Laws of certain countries prevent participating in the event

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lol... did you read what you wrote??
laws?? there is a law that doesnt allow me to play an online game tournament???
roflmao, tell me more about that law (if you find it in any countries law code)...

look, i pay 13€ a month and i want to know why i can't participate. .. i think this deserves a blue post...
we just want to know WHY!!!
is it that much?

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lol... did you read what you wrote??
laws?? there is a law that doesnt allow me to play an online game tournament???
roflmao, tell me more about that law (if you find it in any countries law code)...

look, i pay 13€ a month and i want to know why i can't participate. .. i think this deserves a blue post...
we just want to know WHY!!!
is it that much?

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Its the same reason that some countries are not allowed into the RAF scheme.

Your countries marketing laws prevent thats kind of offer.

Although as the Arena Tournament is a pay to enter contest, it cpould be that as well

Seeing as you want a Blue response, reas post 2 in this thread:

http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=268157104&postId=2679832069&sid=1#2


Thats a Blue answer to your question


Haze

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look, i pay 13€ a month and i want to know why i can't participate. .. i think this deserves a blue post...
we just want to know WHY!!!
is it that much?

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You were already told, whether you choose to believe it or not is up to you.

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lol... did you read what you wrote??
laws?? there is a law that doesnt allow me to play an online game tournament???
roflmao, tell me more about that law (if you find it in any countries law code)...

look, i pay 13€ a month and i want to know why i can't participate. .. i think this deserves a blue post...
we just want to know WHY!!!
is it that much?

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if i'm not mistaken

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1. Sponsor; Eligibility.
BLIZZARD ENTERTAINMENT, SAS, AND BLIZZARD ENTERTAINMENT, INC. (COLLECTIVELY REFERRED TO HEREIN AS THE “SPONSOR”) IS THE SPONSOR OF THIS TOURNAMENT. THIS TOURNAMENT IS OPEN ONLY TO INDIVIDUALS WHO PAY THE ENTRY FEE (as defined below), AND WHO ARE, AT THE TIME OF ENTRY AND AWARD OF PRIZE: (A) LEGAL RESIDENTS OF THE FOLLOWING COUNTRIES: FINLAND, FRANCE, GERMANY, AUSTRIA, SPAIN, THE UNITED KINGDOM, IRELAND, THE GRAND DUCHY OF LUXEMBOURG, NORWAY, SWEDEN, BELGIUM, RUSSIA, ITALY AND SWITZERLAND THAT ARE SERVED BY THE FRENCH, GERMAN, SPANISH AND UNITED KINGDOM ENGLISH EU WORLD OF WARCRAFT SERVER, (B) HAVE ATTANED THE AGE OF MAJORITY IN THEIR COUNTRY OF RESIDENCE, AND (C) HAVE AUTHORIZED ACCESS TO A WORLD OF WARCRAFT ACCOUNT THAT IS IN GOOD STANDING AND HAS BEEN UPGRADED WITH “THE BURNING CRUSADE,” AND “WRATH OF THE LICH KING” EXPANSIONS TO WORLD OF WARCRAFT UPON THE COMMENCEMENT DATE (DEFINED BELOW), AND WHICH REMAINS IN GOOD STANDING THROUGHOUT THE TOURNAMENT (THE “ACCOUNT”). If you are under the legal age of majority in your country of residence, but over the age of 13 (or at least 14 years old in Spain, UK, Russia) (a "Minor"), you may still enter and be one of the Eligible Participants, subject to local law, if you otherwise meet all of the eligibility criteria set forth above and one of your parents or legal guardians read and agree to these Tournament rules on your behalf in order to participate in the Regional Qualifier Tournament or the Finals, and win a prize. A parent or legal guardian must agree to accept any prize won by a Minor. For UK residents, a parent or guardian must accompany any Minor and pay all their own travel expenses and accommodation costs associated therewith in order for such Minor to participate in this Tournament. Directors, officers and employees of Sponsor, its parent, and any of their respective affiliate companies, subsidiaries, agents, professional advisors, advertising and promotional agencies, and immediate families of each are not eligible to participate or win any prizes. [All applicable federal, state and local laws and regulations apply.Offer void where prohibited. Eligible Participants must have a World of Warcraft account which includes an associated valid email address. Sponsor reserves the right to verify the email address provided to Sponsor by the Eligible Participant. The Eligible Participant must be the authorized account holder of the Account, unless you are a Minor using the Account registered by your parent or guardian who is the Authorized Account Holder. “Authorized account holder” is defined as the natural person who registered the Account on the World of Warcraft gaming service. There is a limit of one Arena Team per Eligible Participant per Qualification Round.

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http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/arena/tournament/rules.html

do you guys live here to know what laws exist or don't exist??
for you its easy to say "yeah you can't play, live with it" because you guys live in one of those countries.. "you don't care!"

well, if you don't care i'm ok with with, still you have no knowlege of my countries law to tell me there is a marketing law that doesnt allow me to play in this tournament.. BECAUSE THERE IS NONE!!!

i will try another aproach. here is the list of allowed countries:
FINLAND, FRANCE, GERMANY, AUSTRIA, SPAIN, THE UNITED KINGDOM, IRELAND, THE GRAND DUCHY OF LUXEMBOURG, NORWAY, SWEDEN, BELGIUM, RUSSIA, ITALY AND SWITZERLAND

here are some of the not allowed:
portugal, denmark, netherlands, greece, serbia, ukraine, trukey, iceland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, Romania, Moldova, Bulgaria, Albania, Slovakia, Poland, Hungary, Czech Republic, Slovenia, Croatia (and some others)

think for 5 seconds... the more important, more powerfull and probably with more players countries are all in the first list..

do you still think its because of laws?? i don't, but i still dont know why and i want to know it!

edit: this is the blue post:
* Requirement to have purchased a copy of a game and/or pay a monthly fee to participate

* Limits on the monetary value of the prize offered

* Requirement that a contest sponsor (Blizzard, in this case) have a company presence within the borders of the country, state, or territory in which the participants reside

1-> i have all that
2-> no limits
3-> no such law

fail blue post!
country is portugal btw

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do you still think its because of laws?? i don't, but i still dont know why and i want to know it!

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yes it is because of laws... u actually think they would play darts on the maps of europe bacause they need some countries where they can't hold the tournament.

even so i do not live in one of those country's so i can't link any of it's laws tto you... but with a little research you can find it your own now stop being lazy and look it up yourself

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Im posting this here because apperantly im not even eligible to post on the tournament forums...

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Yet you're posting in the tournament forums? :s

Some countries have laws against online tournaments / gamblings / games that involves that you can win real money. since its not a part of the govermental gambling assosiacion in those countries.

its sad that there are people that used to exploit ways like winning money from gambling and such online that led to that they earned black money ( tax free money ).

Unless you call blizzard for an alternative sulotion (hopefully it could work ) then you can't participate.

:(

I suggest you to move =]

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do you guys live here to know what laws exist or don't exist??

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Yes we know your laws, because so many people made this point last season. Its not new, your not the first person so stop thinking we are just talking bull!%@! to wind you up.

Its a legal thing, alot of countries have anti gambling laws. This isnt gambling your saying? Yes, personally I agree, its not. But what is gambling? Putting down money with a chance, to win a prize/cash. Which is exactly what this tournament is.

ITS YOUR COUNTRIES ANTI GAMBLING LAWS. and blizzard dont want to get into the ins and outs of lawsuits with all that crap tbh. Sorry mate, i feel for u but its not going to happen.

Make a new account, write United Kingdom as country, power level it until wednesday, join tournament, problem fixed.= )

Just gonna tell you, that there, for a fact, is no such law in Denmark wich prevents us from playing Arena tournaments... And i, too, Have doubts that anyone cares...

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Just gonna tell you, that there, for a fact, is no such law in Denmark wich prevents us from playing Arena tournaments... And i, too, Have doubts that anyone cares...

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Wrong.

The Danish Gaming Authority (Spillemyndigheten I think?) has ruled that the Arena Tournament is classed as a "game of chance" rather than a "game of skill". Under current Income & Taxation legislation, any "game of chance" ("hasardspill" is the term used, "game of chance" is just the closest thing I could find) which provides a large sum as a prize is forbidden.

Ok, so it's a combination of two different laws, but still there. Good luck with your "facts". :)

Every person who signs up for the Tournament has to pay 15€, Blizzard would not deny so many countries to participate unless it was illegal for the country to to play lol. Just think about how much money they lose by doing that.

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In Danish law there are no mentioning of World of Warcraft tournaments. There are however rules about lotteries, gambling, tournaments etc. to help protect consumers against fraud and scams.

Many European countries have these kinds of laws, and as i see it Blizzard are trying to dodge these by hand picking the laws they like the most. Yes they are playing darts in Europe.


It is not a few countries that can not participate, it is actually the majority.


So no - national law does not prevent most of Europe to participate, Blizzard's tournament rules does.

Why turn a computer game into a professional sport? Why not just a relaxed competition with some prizes and fees that wouldn't clash with legal concerns.

A blue poster said something like, "we dont gamble with law", no you just make your own laws out of convenience.

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In Danish law there are no mentioning of World of Warcraft tournaments

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...you mean except for the ones that i mentioned in the post you obviously skipped over? Scroll up for your education. :)