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ROGUE
Hunger for Blood – instead of a self-buff, this ability can only be used when there is a bleed effect on the target. However, it has no stacks and grants a 15% damage bonus.
Adrenaline Rush – the cooldown on this ability has been lowered.
Lightning Reflexes – reduced to 3 ranks. In addition to 2/4/6% dodge, this talent now also grants 4/7/10% passive melee haste.
Killing Spree – while this ability is active, the rogue does 20% additional damage.
Savage Combat – now causes 2/4% physical damage done.
Mace Specialization – this talent now grants haste in addition to armor penetration.


Source: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14910002204&sid=1

Looking good, nothing to severe, wonder how the new killing spree works?

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Copypasting from a blue:

ROGUE
Hunger for Blood – instead of a self-buff, this ability can only be used when there is a bleed effect on the target. However, it has no stacks and grants a 15% damage bonus.
Adrenaline Rush – the cooldown on this ability has been lowered.
Lightning Reflexes – reduced to 3 ranks. In addition to 2/4/6% dodge, this talent now also grants 4/7/10% passive melee haste.
Killing Spree – while this ability is active, the rogue does 20% additional damage.
Savage Combat – now causes 2/4% physical damage done.
Mace Specialization – this talent now grants haste in addition to armor penetration.


Source: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14910002204&sid=1

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I love it...I really really love it...feels good in staying combat throughout the hard times....

now all our non damaging talents we can exchange for 10% haste...mmmmm

Adrenalin rush cooldown lowered...please be 3 minutes....please please...

I love it...any buff is a welcomed buff...

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Hunger for Blood – instead of a self-buff, this ability can only be used when there is a bleed effect on the target. However, it has no stacks and grants a 15% damage bonus.

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Really curious what that means actually.. instead of buffing it constantly on yourself, it gives a passive 15% damage buff whenever rupture (or garrote) is active on the target? That "can only be used" part is confusing, as in do you need to trigger it yourself or what's the deal?

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Really curious what that means actually.. instead of buffing it constantly on yourself, it gives a passive 15% damage buff whenever rupture is active on the target? That "can only be used" part is confusing, as in do you need to trigger it yourself or what's the deal?

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it means you can use it if you have any feral druid or dps warrior (or tanks sometimes spec deep wounds) in the raid and is attacking your target. so in other words you will very likely have 0 trouble keeping hfb up

edit: it will be blacked out until the target has a bleed on it, think deep freeze talent of mages.

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it means you can use it if you have any feral druid or dps warrior (or tanks sometimes spec deep wounds) in the raid and is attacking your target. so in other words you will very likely have 0 trouble keeping hfb up

edit: it will be blacked out until the target has a bleed on it, think deep freeze talent of mages.

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But it's still only 30 sec duration for 30 energy?

Excuse me for a moment while I descend into paroxysms of evil laughter......

In all seriousness, these look quite nice, although doubtless they won't be quite the same by the time they hit live. Any opinions/early stage theorycrafting on mace spec with the current state of Armour Pen?

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But it's still only 30 sec duration for 30 energy?

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Yes, but it's only one stack.

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But it's still only 30 sec duration for 30 energy?

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looks like it, still as gay to maintain but not so dps breaking when it drops for what ever reason. honestly not very impressed gonna be a right pain with multiple pulls an gimps fok a bit, but better than nothing i suppose.

I like too give my first thoughs on the chances:

Hunger for Blood – instead of a self-buff, this ability can only be used when there is a bleed effect on the target. However, it has no stacks and grants a 15% damage bonus.

They have pritty much taken that from forums and gave it a twist, but nice chance :)

Adrenaline Rush – the cooldown on this ability has been lowered.

Jeah nice, but howmuch lowered? 1min?

Lightning Reflexes – reduced to 3 ranks. In addition to 2/4/6% dodge, this talent now also grants 4/7/10% passive melee haste.

Great, ill just switch my points out of imp sprint, and one out of endurance.
But i think you gonna hurt rogues who are using fist/sword combination with that chance.
oo.. well, they can always buy Libarian dagger from ah ^^

Killing Spree – while this ability is active, the rogue does 20% additional damage.

Woot! more aoe for combat rogues :P (also nice for some bossfights)

Savage Combat – now causes 2/4% physical damage done.

Ap and potion requirement removed? still 4% is nice :)

Mace Specialization – this talent now grants haste in addition to armor penetration.

Hmm.. im having trouble with this one, i have a feeling that maces becoming better than sword and fist spec... but than again the off-hand are slower compared too daggers and swords.

I like the chances in general :)
Now we have too wait and see how they get though the test realms :P

Blizz wants ass rogues to respec combat ...

Cheer! I'm a bit tired of woosh, though I'm tired of PvE.

all gonna spec combat ....cant see balance still

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all gonna spec combat ....cant see balance still

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There will never be as it never was 2 specs that make equal dps, even the slightest advantage will choose the spec for you, if you want to do good in raids.

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Adrenaline Rush – the cooldown on this ability has been lowered.

Jeah nice, but howmuch lowered? 1min?

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1 minute if the glyph stays, 2 mins and loose the glyph....

AR cooldown of 2 minutes would be seriously OP....

i mean there will not be a slight gap btw assa and combat after these changes....

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i mean there will not be a slight gap btw assa and combat after these changes....

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Considering one more thing you need to pay attention to combat and combat doing better fater patch, welll yea even I would go combat again even though I packed up some sweet dags.

changes look very boring and insignificant, also no changes for HAT incoming so that HAT rogues might eventually be a bit more self sustainable.

also no pvp changes mentioned. hemo really needs some love - my suggestion would be to add hemo to puncturing wounds to make it a bit less sucky in pvp.