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  • Ravencrest
  • 0. Vanish and cloak bugs a lot :(   04/02/2009 13:25:01 PST
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Hi guys!

I just wanted to hear, whether or not you are having an equal amount of trouble with vanish breaking as I am? Or maybe I'm just bad at vanishing at the right times, idk.. Seems to me like ppl can see you like a second after you hit the vanish or something.. It's quite annoying really..

Also I've noticed that vanish/stealth breaks from the application of some debuffs, particularly Consecration.. Not the actual damage, but the initial application of it.. Is this a bug or intended? Either way it's annoying >.<

Also Cloak of Shadows seems to be broken as hell.. Instant casts getting in if cast when you pop it doesn't get removed.. Also there seems to be some kind of lag issue with popping it before someone nukes you, so that the spells will go in clean anyway..

Anyone know what I'm talking about? :(

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  • Deathwing
  • 1. Re: Vanish and cloak bugs a lot :(   04/02/2009 13:29:55 PST
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Also I've noticed that vanish/stealth breaks from the application of some debuffs, particularly Consecration.. Not the actual damage, but the initial application of it.. Is this a bug or intended? Either way it's annoying >.<


Application of what?
Its a friggin' Damaging AoE, what did you expect?

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  • Ravencrest
  • 2. Re: Vanish and cloak bugs a lot :(   04/02/2009 13:50:36 PST
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Application of what?
Its a friggin' Damaging AoE, what did you expect?


....

When you step in to an "splatter on ground"-aoe, it takes a second or two before the actual damage ticks in.. However stealth breaks from getting the "Consecration" debuff, but no damage.. you follow ?
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  • Shattered Hand
  • 3. Re: Vanish and cloak bugs a lot :(   04/02/2009 14:14:31 PST
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As far as i know Consecration, Death and Decay etc are doing dmg as soon as they land or are used.

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  • 4. Re: Vanish and cloak bugs a lot :(   04/02/2009 15:35:42 PST
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Give the guy a break. Plus, he is right. What he means is if Consecration is used it doesn't dmg every fracking minisecond so if you walk in it, there might still be a second before it hurts you. But when you walk in it you will see the consecration message right away.

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  • Neptulon
  • 5. Re: Vanish and cloak bugs a lot :(   04/02/2009 16:38:04 PST
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As far as i know Consecration, Death and Decay etc are doing dmg as soon as they land or are used.


I don't think that this is true. Only lag would make you break stealth as soon as you step into Consecration/DnD -- I think. At least it used to be 100% that way before, haven't paid much attention lately.
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  • 6. Re: Vanish and cloak bugs a lot :(   04/02/2009 17:19:29 PST
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have same problem with both of those AOEs. If i step into it for a pikosec and move out it just breaks stealth without dmg...

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  • 7. Re: Vanish and cloak bugs a lot :(   05/02/2009 06:39:34 PST
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In regards to Vanish, we do believe that there may still be some bugs with it, but we are having trouble replicating those bugs in in order to get to the core of the issue. Whenever we try, Vanish simply works perfectly.

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  • Daggerspine
  • 8. Re: Vanish and cloak bugs a lot :(   05/02/2009 06:43:04 PST
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In regards to Vanish, we do believe that there may still be some bugs with it, but we are having trouble replicating those bugs in in order to get to the core of the issue. Whenever we try, Vanish simply works perfectly.


http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=7913121765&sid=1
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  • 9. Re: Vanish and cloak bugs a lot :(   05/02/2009 06:46:52 PST
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Whenever we try, Vanish simply works perfectly.


So: what are you guys doing differently than us?

And what got changed in the patch (erm.. 1.6? 1.8? the one were Hunter FD -> detargetting got introduced) that made vanish start failing unpredictably?

[ Post edited by Assassinette ]


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  • 10. Re: Vanish and cloak bugs a lot :(   05/02/2009 06:52:33 PST
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In regards to Vanish, we do believe that there may still be some bugs with it, but we are having trouble replicating those bugs in in order to get to the core of the issue. Whenever we try, Vanish simply works perfectly.


though reworded, this is still a GC quote:

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14910132351&pageNo=1&sid=1#4


:)

[ Post edited by Azmodia ]


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  • Ravencrest
  • 11. Re: Vanish and cloak bugs a lot :(   05/02/2009 07:00:07 PST
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Q u o t e:
In regards to Vanish, we do believe that there may still be some bugs with it, but we are having trouble replicating those bugs in in order to get to the core of the issue. Whenever we try, Vanish simply works perfectly.


You should just follow me around while I play BGs then ;)
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  • 12. Re: Vanish and cloak bugs a lot :(   05/02/2009 07:04:28 PST
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The problem is easily solved by adding a 0.5 sec immunity after vanish is used, however easy as this solution is, its not going to happen anyway :)
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  • Emeriss
  • 13. Re: Vanish and cloak bugs a lot :(   05/02/2009 07:13:43 PST
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Q u o t e:
In regards to Vanish, we do believe that there may still be some bugs with it, but we are having trouble replicating those bugs in in order to get to the core of the issue. Whenever we try, Vanish simply works perfectly.


Try testing it with a mage casting ice lance at 30+ yard range at the same time as you vanish. That or a paladin using holy shock or judgement. These are the spells I notice vanish bugging out most of the time with. (In duels, I've never seen vanish work vs a frost mage that uses IL at the same time as you vanish).

It's just so frustrating to see mages invis and night elf shadowmeld work 100% (or very very close to it) of the time, but vanish breaking reliably on several spells, and completely randomly other times.

Really nice to hear that you still haven't given up on this bug, keep up the good work. :)
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  • Mazrigos
  • 14. Re: Vanish and cloak bugs a lot :(   05/02/2009 07:27:16 PST
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That or a paladin using holy shock or judgement.


i've also noticed it failing on paladin a lot
once during a fight with a paladin i got out of his melee range and pressed CloS to remove his debuffs he had on me and waited carefully for 1 second before pressing vanish just so it wouldn't bug
but it did
during CloS there were no misses or hits done to me
(and my connection was 130ms)

i don't think it's connected just to damage
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  • Moonglade
  • 15. Re: Vanish and cloak bugs a lot :(   05/02/2009 08:01:43 PST
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Q u o t e:
In regards to Vanish, we do believe that there may still be some bugs with it, but we are having trouble replicating those bugs in in order to get to the core of the issue. Whenever we try, Vanish simply works perfectly.


Try dueling a target dummy in IF, vanish fails there.

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  • Ravencrest
  • 16. Re: Vanish and cloak bugs a lot :(   05/02/2009 08:09:03 PST
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Try dueling a target dummy in IF, vanish fails there.


In that case making a stop-attack macro would prolly help ya out.

#showtooltip Vanish
/stopattack
/cast vanish
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  • Moonglade
  • 17. Re: Vanish and cloak bugs a lot :(   05/02/2009 08:11:27 PST
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In that case making a stop-attack macro would prolly help ya out.

#showtooltip Vanish
/stopattack
/cast vanish



Thanks, i'll try it out

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  • 18. Re: Vanish and cloak bugs a lot :(   05/02/2009 08:15:34 PST
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Q u o t e:
In regards to Vanish, we do believe that there may still be some bugs with it, but we are having trouble replicating those bugs in in order to get to the core of the issue. Whenever we try, Vanish simply works perfectly.


Vanish seems to break easily if you vanish and at the same time a hunter or a paladin tries an instant range attack on you, even if you vanish before they actually cast it. This is just one of many different bug scenarios.


Edit: All that's required is play a lot of PvP(that is where the "bugs" are mostt easily recreated). 2v2 or more. Also try using vanish near AoE, but still not in range of getting damage.

[ Post edited by Neana ]

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  • Earthen Ring
  • 19. Re: Vanish and cloak bugs a lot :(   05/02/2009 08:48:21 PST
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In that case making a stop-attack macro would prolly help ya out.

#showtooltip Vanish
/stopattack
/cast vanish



In IF, I've regularly vanished next to dummies, without having one targeted and without melee actions being performed before vanishing.
Only to do the arms-in-the-air-dance.


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