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0. Upcoming Warrior Changes in 3.1.0 05-Feb-2009 08:11:51 PST

As many of you know the next major content patch will include some very exciting things, such as Ulduar, a new epic raid dungeon, a wealth of new items, and much more. We thought players would especially enjoy reading just a few of the class changes we're currently planning. Please keep in mind, that this list is not at all comprehensive, and more importantly subject to change.

Changing stances now has a much reduced cost: you lose a maximum of 20 rage (10 with Tactical Mastery). For example, if you have 100 rage and change stances, you will have 80 rage remaining. If you have 10 rage and change stances, all of your rage is lost. In addition, we may change the penalties associated with some stances.

You now gain rage when damage done to you is absorbed, such as through a Power Word: Shield.

Blood Frenzy now causes 2/4% physical damage done.

Sunder Armor (and similar debuffs) now reduces armor by 4% per application, and is now a single rank. Creature armor has been globally reduced so that debuffed targets should take about the same damage from physical attacks that they did before this change. The net effect should be that this debuff is slightly less mandatory in PvE and is not disproportionately more powerful against cloth targets in PvP.

We are also adding increased damage to Arms, possibly through Overpower or Slam.

We are also looking at granting rage when the warrior blocks, dodges or parries.

For details of other class changes upcoming, please check out the following thread in General:
http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=7913091638&postId=79122296845

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Birdo

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1. Re: Upcoming Warrior Changes in 3.1.0 05-Feb-2009 08:14:59 PST

Q u o t e:

You now gain rage when damage done to you is absorbed, such as through a Power Word: Shield.

how about when dealing dmg to targets that absorb? still same as before?

[ Post edited by Birdo ]

Thechechen

2. Re: Upcoming Warrior Changes in 3.1.0 05-Feb-2009 08:18:58 PST

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You now gain rage when damage done to you is absorbed, such as through a Power Word: Shield.

What about when I do damage to the target with the shield?
Do I get rage for one of my attacks being absorbed?

Q u o t e:
This is outrages.

Torridh

< Bloodline >

3. Re: Upcoming Warrior Changes in 3.1.0 05-Feb-2009 08:23:57 PST

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What about when I do damage to the target with the shield?
Do I get rage for one of my attacks being absorbed?

You get rage when you are shielded and damage done to you is absorbed.

Q u o t e:
We are also looking at granting rage when the warrior blocks, dodges or parried

Blessing of Sanctuary, yay, sweet!

[ Post edited by Torridh ]

Thechechen

4. Re: Upcoming Warrior Changes in 3.1.0 05-Feb-2009 08:24:46 PST

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You get rage when you are shielded and damage done to you is absorbed.

I know that. I can read. Can you?

[ Post edited by Thechechen ]

Q u o t e:
This is outrages.

Torridh

< Bloodline >

5. Re: Upcoming Warrior Changes in 3.1.0 05-Feb-2009 08:25:20 PST

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I know that, I can read. Can you?

No, I can't. What you want again?

Nyrdil

6. Re: Upcoming Warrior Changes in 3.1.0 05-Feb-2009 08:26:37 PST

Some awesome changes there. Was getting sick of having my ass handed to me by pally absorb shield.

Thechechen

7. Re: Upcoming Warrior Changes in 3.1.0 05-Feb-2009 08:27:20 PST

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No, I can't. What you want again?

They said that if I had a shield and I absorbed an attack, I will get rage, BUT, will I get rage for attacking a target that absorbed MY attack?

ME attacks, attack absorbed, does ME get rage?

Q u o t e:
This is outrages.

Nitr

< Fear Nothing >

8. Re: Upcoming Warrior Changes in 3.1.0 05-Feb-2009 08:28:13 PST

Make overpower useable in berserker stance, pve fixed. Also you should chance Iron will talent, it should be: Reduces the duration of stun effects by 30% and reduces all damage taken while stunned by 30%

[ Post edited by Nitr ]

Nezz

< Delay No More >

9. Re: Upcoming Warrior Changes in 3.1.0 05-Feb-2009 08:34:45 PST

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Make overpower useable in berserker stance, pve fixed.

you need to make rend useable in berserker as well then (taste for blood) else the effect will be wasted again!

Uurrgghh

10. Re: Upcoming Warrior Changes in 3.1.0 05-Feb-2009 08:39:02 PST

Make hamstring usable in defensive stance.

Lower the penalty on the stances.

Ganjola

< Cult of Erzulie >

11. Re: Upcoming Warrior Changes in 3.1.0 05-Feb-2009 08:39:06 PST

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You now gain rage when damage done to you is absorbed, such as through a Power Word: Shield.

"Its about time"

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Biska

< Royal Vanguard >

12. Re: Upcoming Warrior Changes in 3.1.0 05-Feb-2009 08:40:17 PST

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Some awesome changes there. Was getting sick of having my ass handed to me by pally absorb shield.

And that will remain the same, since you will still not produce any rage on absorb shield. Read, whine some more, all you get (as arms) is more dps from bloodfrenzy, and if they don't improve overpower, thats pretty much it.. We will remain UP.

Jesuz

Khaz'goroth

13. Re: Upcoming Warrior Changes in 3.1.0 05-Feb-2009 08:40:39 PST

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Make overpower useable in berserker stance, pve fixed.

/facepalm

Edit: for the record, I believe fixing rage problems (especially in combination with stancedancing) might make Warriors feel less helpless in certain situations, but won't even begin to fix the core PvP issues.

[ Post edited by Jesuz ]

Miorum

< Killing Time >

14. Re: Upcoming Warrior Changes in 3.1.0 05-Feb-2009 08:42:10 PST

*mutters something about things being "about damn time" and buying the Dwarf messenger a pint if this goes live*

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Q u o t e:
The Astleybringer...

Flanks

< Phalanx >

15. Re: Upcoming Warrior Changes in 3.1.0 05-Feb-2009 08:42:19 PST

Concern raised in warrior chat on irc about the rage changes. Obviously we like em ;)

But how does this effect the usefullness of charge in pvp?

With new changes, charge -> zerker stance = no rage.

This is especially considering that there is still the bug in game which means that often with charge/intercept you dont finish next to the target, so there may be no target to hit for rage either.

Perhaps consider making charge usable in zerker stance?

Thechechen

16. Re: Upcoming Warrior Changes in 3.1.0 05-Feb-2009 08:42:56 PST

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You now gain rage when damage done to you is absorbed, such as through a Power Word: Shield.
Q u o t e:

"Its about time"

What about the other way around?

Q u o t e:
This is outrages.

Grruno

17. Re: Upcoming Warrior Changes in 3.1.0 05-Feb-2009 08:42:59 PST

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Changing stances now has a much reduced cost: you lose a maximum of 20 rage (10 with Tactical Mastery). For example, if you have 100 rage and change stances, you will have 80 rage remaining. If you have 10 rage and change stances, all of your rage is lost.

Freaking finally...

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In addition, we may change the penalties associated with some stances.

U better be.

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You now gain rage when damage done to you is absorbed, such as through a Power Word: Shield.

Blood Frenzy now causes 2/4% physical damage done.....

Well... yawn...

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We are also adding increased damage to Arms, possibly through Overpower or Slam.

I said many times Overpower nerf was unnecesary. Slam? Pls don't, use something else.

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We are also looking at granting rage when the warrior blocks, dodges or parries.

Good.

Not bad, for starters. Now, where are survivability buffs..?

[ Post edited by Grruno ]

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Bhord

< Prevailing Light >

18. Re: Upcoming Warrior Changes in 3.1.0 05-Feb-2009 08:44:08 PST

Independant on how "realistic" it is if we should get rage on shielded targets or not (as we're not actually hitting) not gaining rage from hitting shielded targets is slowly destroying our class

Thechechen

19. Re: Upcoming Warrior Changes in 3.1.0 05-Feb-2009 08:44:20 PST

Q u o t e:
Concern raised in warrior chat on irc about the rage changes. Obviously we like em ;)

But how does this effect the usefullness of charge in pvp?

With new changes, charge -> zerker stance = no rage.

This is especially considering that there is still the bug in game which means that often with charge/intercept you dont finish next to the target, so there may be no target to hit for rage either.

Perhaps consider making charge usable in zerker stance?

I think I came up with pretty good solution

http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=7913121623&sid=1

Q u o t e:
This is outrages.

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