First.

And like the siphon life change.

Fantastic to see that something is being done! I especially like the change to Siphon Life - it seems barely worth keeping in a rotation at the moment.

I am curious as to whether the change to Consume Shadows will remove the stealth detection recieved while channeling it. Blizzard seem to be bouncing that skill around!

If the critical strike debuff from Improved Shadow Bolt is in addition to its current non-periodic damage bonus, it sounds nice. Otherwise, it depends on the numbers, but is potentially a nerf.

I'm not sure about the curse combination - I don't do much PvP, so this should be taken with a grain of salt, but it still seems like CoA outstrips this new combined curse for affliction warlocks.

Most of all I am curious about the talent tree changes - if the reduction of ranks is done while retaining the full effect of the talent (eg. 15%+dmg from Shadow Mastery at rank 3 instead of rank 5), these freed up talent points could make for some very interesting builds. New talents also sound very interesting!

Woot

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Several other warlock talents have had their ranks reduced, their effects changed or removed. This list includes but is not limited to Demonic Empathy, Shadow Embrace, Eradication, Suppression, and Pandemic.

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I'm rather worried over what this could mean...

Also, I want a new ability! everyone else got one!!

First page!

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# Drain Soul now has a chance to produce Soul Shards even if the target doesn’t die.

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Is the chance equal to the one you applied on the glyph? Cause if it is, 1/600 chance to proc is not much.
Save yourselves some work and just leave it as it is.

I wonder if this means taking the siphon life talent grants corruption additional damage alongside the healing, as otherwise unless the damage is made up elsewhere, we are taking a dps hit from losing a DoT (however small it may have been!)

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Improved Shadow Bolt – this talent now provides a 5% spell critical strike buff (similar to Improved Scorch)

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Moreover, what's the point in that?

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I wonder if this means taking the siphon life talent grants corruption additional damage alongside the healing, as otherwise unless the damage is made up elsewhere, we are taking a dps hit from losing a DoT (however small it may have been!)

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QFT.

We are going to have to wait until we see some further explanation and real numbers on these, however, as it stands, this does not look to be anywhere in measure with what those such as shadow priests are getting (at very least blizzard is looking at their pvp...)

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I wonder if this means taking the siphon life talent grants corruption additional damage alongside the healing, as otherwise unless the damage is made up elsewhere, we are taking a dps hit from losing a DoT (however small it may have been!)

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Dude,

Was thinking the exact same thing. Whether it's just tacked on as additional damage and heal, or whether we're losing SL all together and getting a heal off of corruption.

Hope it's the former. Having said that, lets see what they do with the talents.

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Moreover, what's the point in that?

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It means all mages can go arcane and !%@!!%*%*@%%!*#@ the meters while we provide the debuffs.

These are nerfs and it's completely retarded.

OH WOW THIS IS ALL I EVER WANTED UNDER A LIFETIME'S WORTH OF CHRISTMASS TREES.

lol at dev's

What I hope mostly is that the heal we're gonna receive is 100% the damage done by corruption and not like a portion of it.

Sometimes I wonder would I get more attention to the warlock plight if I ran naked down the rain soaked streets of Dalarn some dark and stormy night, shouting "FIX ME!!!!" as loud as I can....

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It means all mages can go arcane and !%@!!%*%*@%%!*#@ the meters while we provide the debuffs.

These are nerfs and it's completely retarded.

OH WOW THIS IS ALL I EVER WANTED UNDER A LIFETIME'S WORTH OF CHRISTMASS TREES.

lol at dev's

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Also, 5% crit? Isn't improved scorch giving 10%? So it's not only a nerf, but it's not even comparable to the mage one?

Or does it stack? Wtb answerz pl0x.

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Sometimes I wonder would I get more attention to the warlock plight if I ran naked down the rain soaked streets of Dalarn some dark and stormy night, shouting "FIX ME!!!!" as loud as I can....

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I'd suggest you to try this IRL in the main street of your city!
Lots of fun imo :P

Disappointaton so far.

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As many of you know the next major content patch will include some very exciting things, such as Ulduar, a new epic raid dungeon, a wealth of new items, and much more. We thought players would especially enjoy reading just a few of the class changes we're currently planning. Please keep in mind, that this list is not at all comprehensive, and more importantly subject to change.

• Improved Shadow Bolt – this talent now provides a 5% spell critical strike buff (similar to Improved Scorch)


• Improved Soul Leech – this talent now provides Replenishment (similar to shadow priests)


• Drain Soul now has a chance to produce Soul Shards even if the target doesn’t die.


• Siphon Life no longer as an active ability but the talent grants the old Siphon Life effect to Corruption.


• Curse of Recklessness and Curse of Weakness have been combined into one spell


• Consume Shadows – this Voidwalker ability is no longer channeled but has a cooldown.


• Several other warlock talents have had their ranks reduced, their effects changed or removed. This list includes but is not limited to Demonic Empathy, Shadow Embrace, Eradication, Suppression, and Pandemic.


• Additional new talents have been added.

For details of other class changes upcoming, please check out the following thread in General:
http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=7913091638&postId=79122296845

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thanks for the post, vaneras, but I have one doubt.

Right now, improved shadowbolt gives warlocks an effect when we CRIT with a shadowbolt.
Improved scorch works by giving the mob a debuff when mages HIT (or crit) with a scorch.

Is imp. shadowbolt going to work off of any shadowbolt hit like imp. scorch, or is it going to remain a "whenever you crit with shadowbolt, X happens" talent? That isn't really clear.

"Several other warlock talents have had their ranks reduced, their effects changed or removed. This list includes but is not limited to Demonic Empathy, Shadow Embrace, Eradication, Suppression, and Pandemic. "

Moar points?