Hotfix for Guardian Spirit? (Doesn't properly proc the 50% Heal)
It is not an easy bug to fix because the problem described seems to happen inconsistently and smells strongly of being affected by server lag. If we can come up with a clean fix then we will hotfix. Currently we aren't sure how widespread or frequent the problem is.

I really don't think this is the case. What I have noticed is that Guardian Spirit doesn't proc when you get more than one 'killing blows' almost simultaneously. I had to use it on myself in Stratholme (vanilla one) when pulling way more mobs than I intended, and it didn't proc even in there. No, there was no lag. It procs fine WITH lag, if the person it is cast on gets hit from a single damage source.

I believe what you described is -exactly- the server lag, which has nothing to do with "normal" lags.
You get saved on the first killing blow, but then die on the second one, before the healing is applied.
Same thing happens when you cast it right before the target dies.

Cheers Slorkuz, any chance you can include a PoM-fix in the hotfix as well please? I understand it's not as important as the GS-bug, but the "a more powerfull spell is allready active" message is getting rather annoying by now :P

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You are correct. The problem indeed appears to be related to getting a second hit in (and thus killing the target) before the GS heal has a chance to be applied. We will be providing a hotfix for this bug soon.

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Thanks for the prompt reply, it sucks to have our 51st talent bugged in a way that makes it non reliable.
I can only hope you will fix it as promptly, and also fix the CoH bug in vortex. Though we could heal the 10man version with 2 holy priests only, using renew, shields and ProM, it is annoying to not be able to use your abilities the way they should be used, especially for situations where they are a great tool.

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I believe what you described is -exactly- the server lag, which has nothing to do with "normal" lags.
You get saved on the first killing blow, but then die on the second one, before the healing is applied.
Same thing happens when you cast it right before the target dies.

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If I remember correctly, they recently changed the way guardian spirit was coded because it would proc the healing more than once when simultaneous killing blows occurred. As a result, you now get no healing proc when simultaneous killing blows occurr. It's not lag, unless you mean normal server response time. If it can't work with normal server response time, then it is not situational lag, but a bug.

Bug seems to be very similar to the rogue vanish "bug". Mainly latency causes. I've only had it to me a few times and mainly during times where tank had to pull more thsn one mob. During the King Dred achivement with all the raptors I used GS and it failed. I'm guessing multiple killing blows at the same time makes it stop working properly too?

Used to farm heroics with a feral tank, noticed that the GS heal never proced on him. Thought it was some bug with GS and shapeshift targets (or something like that), but guess it was because of the reason mentioned above.

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Cheers Slorkuz, any chance you can include a PoM-fix in the hotfix as well please? I understand it's not as important as the GS-bug, but the "a more powerfull spell is allready active" message is getting rather annoying by now :P

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On PVE gear in raid condition i ve around 3000 sp, i hate the T7 because only one piece is OK ( gauntlet by default : no ilvl226 avaible), then i don't have the 2 pieces bonus ( +1charge on PoM )
Because of this bonus a 2000sp Priest with T7 raid 10 can crush my PoM ( remove it ) and i can't put mine on his.

Now that bugs are discussed, can improved holy concentration be fixed too?
Now that we are forced to spam flashheal again its annoying to see that if HC procs from heal 1, heal 2 consumes the first charge without the haste being applied if casted right after the heal that procs HC.

Its a long time bug, i know that the coh nerf took a lot of work and all but it would be nice to actually benefit fully from a talent that takes 6 talent points ;)

Fix Lightwell too, I wanna return to my old spec (

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Bug seems to be very similar to the rogue vanish "bug". Mainly latency causes. I've only had it to me a few times and mainly during times where tank had to pull more thsn one mob. During the King Dred achivement with all the raptors I used GS and it failed. I'm guessing multiple killing blows at the same time makes it stop working properly too?

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Its quite a lot different to the vanish bug. With vanish you have to take into account the lag between Blizzard servers and the players PC. The player would click vanish and by the time Blizzard realise that they wanted to vanish it had already applied another source of damage which brings them back out of stealth again.

With GS there's no communication between Blizzard and players PC, the player will already have GS active so its all internal within the Blizzard server. GS is up, and the player recieves two forms of damage almost in the same instant - the GS should proc from one of them and apply your 50%hp minus the 2nd hits damage. It would appear either its coded incorrectly or the servers aren't quick enough to calculate it so kinda gives up and kills you instead ;)

The only way they would ever fix the vanish bug is to give rogues a 1 or 2 secs immunity from anything that could bring them out of stealth after vanishing, although this would make vanish very overpowered and would stop people doing legitimate tactics such as aoeing when a rogue did so. The same sort of fix could be added to GS, but again that would make it overpowered and defeat the object - its not a complete immunity, if you are going to take more than "your starting HP + 51%" damage, then you should die. Just at the moment its not giving you that extra 50% hp if you are getting hit multiple times.

Its not as if priests aren't squishy enough as it is....

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You are correct. The problem indeed appears to be related to getting a second hit in (and thus killing the target) before the GS heal has a chance to be applied. We will be providing a hotfix for this bug soon.

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I can almost not believe the devs would not realize this was going to happen when they "fixed" it healing several times for several killing blows at the same time... almost...

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You are correct. The problem indeed appears to be related to getting a second hit in (and thus killing the target) before the GS heal has a chance to be applied. We will be providing a hotfix for this bug soon.

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I'm still experiencing the problems with guardian spirit as described by the original poster. Last night, after my tank had died, closer inspection of the combatlog resulted in the conclusion that the spell had bugged out (tank had taken only a little more damage than he actually had HP, gs was on him about 1 second before he died from a double hit).

I have checked the patchnotes of the last few months, but can't find any mention about guardian spirit.

Don't get me wrong, currently I'm quite happy with how the spell functions in combination with the glyph. Still, it strikes me as very odd that I actually need a glyph to make a 51-point--talent worth having. Are there any updates on this issue?

Thanks in advance,
Sylver

There is another bug I have experienced lately so I will post it here.

I have dual-spec, and I notice when I switch to my Holy spec, I am still proccing Divine Aegis from some critical heals (my other spec is disc). It seems to be limited to criticals from Prayer of Mending, but obviously I don't have the talent for Divine Aegis as holy.

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There is another bug I have experienced lately so I will post it here.

I have dual-spec, and I notice when I switch to my Holy spec, I am still proccing Divine Aegis from some critical heals (my other spec is disc). It seems to be limited to criticals from Prayer of Mending, but obviously I don't have the talent for Divine Aegis as holy.

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I have seen the same bug a couple of times. I of course didn't whine about it :)

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I have seen the same bug a couple of times. I of course didn't care to report it in order to try and get it fixed and am instead happily exploiting the bug :)

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Fixed it for you.