Hello aimers.

Name is Elder Amakiir from skullcrusher, and i got a problem... My DPS is the worst, EVER seen.

Today i went an Heroic Gun'Drak and managed to see that my DPS is @#*%ing 1500... in naxxramas fully buffed and such i have around 2.5 k which sucks!

When im on a boss or such i always first use my hunter's mark, serpent sting, explosive and then 2 steady shots and then an explosive and on and on. I do not use Traps at all on bosses.

As i played today my Damage was lower than our tank and a feral druid was before me with like 50%

This is bugging me like hell and do u hunters out there have any advices or suggestion for me on *Tactics and *Enchants/gems/gear.

Armory: http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Skullcrusher&n=Amakiir

I hope there can be something u can help me with cause i sometimes get teased (lol) and it is annoying to have prot palas before on DPS

right off the bat, 2 things:

- replace +AP gems with +agi ones.
- your talent build is bit weird, brows around these forums for build suggestions, or check talents from some other hunters

With your gear you should be easily getting 2k dps on Heroics, and maybe slightly above 3k on raid bosses.

Taking a quick glance at your spec I suggest you:
- Forget about surefooted and get TnT.
- Might also change the talents you spent on Imp. Hunters Mark to Go for the throat.

The rest is fine, all I can suggest is go hit up the training dummies and work it out yourself, if you need everything given to you on a platter then maybe the hunter isn't a class for you.

Still I find it very hard to believe a tank did over 3,5k dps, which he would need to do if he did 50% more dmg than you. It's Impossible actually, so you're just making a fool out of yourself.

Well actually i said 50% more Damage and not dps. Even though i might overacted alittle. Just so u get the point.

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Well actually i said 50% more Damage and not dps. Even though i might overacted alittle. Just so u get the point.

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Which is precisely what I wrote? Either you have been afk half the fight our you were in Aspct of the Viper trough the whole fight.

Damn even If i was in Viper for a whole duration of a boss fight I don't really see how a tank could do more damage than me.

Nvm -

All my tactics and strategies have become corrupted since alt playing and patches so i dont know inside out anymore. This is why i need some suggestions and not people thinking that they're better, ty

Get hit capped

I almost never miss. Eventhough might this be a problem?

Move the point you got in Imp Marks to Imp AotH and get the Glyph.
Get your hit rating to cap which is 8%, saying that you don't miss wont help if your wws log shows 1% misses, that is 1% less dps.
Get some mod that alerts you when Lock and Load procs.
And learn how to cycle shots correct as SV, there are plenty of guides and posts explaining how to.

Edit: As SV 16 agility > 32 attack power
Which means you can override some of those socket bonus, just need to keep the meta gem active.
For blue socket, Enchanted Tear adds most. (you can only have 1 thou)

Do you use a bar mod?

Have you updated your spells?

I was doing sub-1.5k DPS until I realised my bar mod had not updated spells and I was still using level 72 spells.

Oh holy lord, I'm used to that i get the highest rank when i specc... well! ES 2 ranks higher did a great difference!!! thanks very much, i should've noticed that myself

Btw... since you are not trap dancing... aimed shot is not that good idea. Its mostly used on trap dancing so that you wont lose to much dps when you go placing the trap... move the 1 point from there and the one point from imp hunters mark on focused aim and you will be almost hit capped (you think you dont miss... but you do, and its a very bad think that you do. When you get hit capped without focused aim, go and put it on aimed shot then).
Also, like posters before me said... its rly important to know when LnL procs, cause your rotation then changes slightly: es- refresh serpent or hunters mark if needed, else just do a steady- then es again then go original rotation.
Hope i helped a bit (and yeah, same think happened to me, i forgot to train the higher es rank on my first raid as survi ;p )
/cheers

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Oh holy lord, I'm used to that i get the highest rank when i specc... well! ES 2 ranks higher did a great difference!!! thanks very much, i should've noticed that myself

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I have a feeling that there is a whole army of ex-BM hunters who are currently using ES Rank 1.

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Btw... since you are not trap dancing... aimed shot is not that good idea. Its mostly used on trap dancing so that you wont lose to much dps when you go placing the trap... move the 1 point from there and the one point from imp hunters mark on focused aim and you will be almost hit capped (you think you dont miss... but you do, and its a very bad think that you do. When you get hit capped without focused aim, go and put it on aimed shot then).

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You do know that current hit cap is only 8% and not 9% like we are used to from pre wotlk?

What goes for Aimed Shot, dps increase is slightly higher using it instead of a Steady Shot approx every 10 seconds compared to put the point into Improved Stings.
I time my Aimed Shot every 12 seconds, so it goes with every second Explosive Shot thou.
Not by much, but it is still more.
So with good mana upkeep in the raid Aimed Shot wins.
Another thing worth noticing is that 1/5 Improved Aspect of the Hawk is another point giving more, you need to add the glyph though, making it worth 3 points.
And there is no other glyph adding more dps for a sv, besides the 2 usual Steady and Serpent ones.
As for the rest of points, Improved Stings is the way to go if you are hit capped.

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Btw... since you are not trap dancing... aimed shot is not that good idea. Its mostly used on trap dancing so that you wont lose to much dps when you go placing the trap...

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Aimed shot does more damage then steady shot. It has nothing to do with trapdancing.

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When im on a boss or such i always first use my hunter's mark, serpent sting, explosive and then 2 steady shots and then an explosive and on and on.

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Your rotation should be: keep huntersmark up, keep serpent sting up (refresh when needed, never overwrite it though); Explosive shot , steady, steady, steady, explosive, etc. Replace steady shot with aimed shot whenever aimed shot is off cooldown.

Gear: your gear looks ok to me, you are however missing enchants on some items. Also, you can add an Eternal Belt Buckle to your belt to get another gem slot. And I would replace the +4 stat gem in your helm with something else.

Specc: looks good (it is almost identical to mine, so ofc it must be good then ^^)

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I have a feeling that there is a whole army of ex-BM hunters who are currently using ES Rank 1.

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that true to many xBM hunter's forget to learn new ES ranks

I was BM/MM before the patch and rerolled SV/MM after the patch and I do way more DPS in PvE AND PvP, my gear isn't the best (mostly quests and murloc vendor who likes clams, me too), but with a good combo of using your serpent sting, ES and traps you can put off way more DPS. I always open with Hunters mark, ES, serpent sting, SS, AS and do ES again etc. When im getting chased in PvP i place a Frost Trap, but don't use ES yet, then i get LnL fire off my ES's (not right away since the epic ticks) and most times i get always 1/2 crits from 1 ES (thanks to around 40% crit chance with ES). It also gives me more Agi, mana regen and a mana return.

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You do know that current hit cap is only 8% and not 9% like we are used to from pre wotlk?
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When i watched him on armory he had 5.94% hit and it was the first time i was inspecting him so i didnt know what his gear was like, thats why i told him to add 2 points on talent... sry :)

And about aimed shot.... it does have to do a lot with trap dancing since its an instant shot.... its damage is not that higher than steady and it requires twice the mana of an ss, so in my opinion always, i would not go for it if i wasnt trap dancing or if i could use that extra talent point somewhere else....(generally i agree with you mineria about aimed shot, i just think its kinda of a "luxury" talent for some hunters) thats all.

Well guys, i managed to raise my DPS with _1000_ (yarly) from 1.5 k on a dummy to 2.4 k, just by Resocket, Respecc and learn the highest rank of explosive shot.

1 Thing that might be a problem though is my pet.

I currently use - http://petopia.brashendeavors.net/html/mobs/mob_cursedoffspringofharkoa.html#notes
cause im really into cats. Though are there any pet that might actually increase my DPS alittle i would be grateful if u told me which one :D

Your pet is fine. It's either Cat or Raptor that brings highest DPS currently for non-BM specs.