U're stupid... just plain stupid...

Unless NONE of you are raiding or will raid, then it's acceptible. Example: naxx 25 run has started. ppl are with HS CD in orgrimmar and the summoning stone is inhabited by 25 allies. And this seems to happen ALL THE TIME. So yeah, it's so fun to wait 20 minutes before you can summon 10 ppl to the raid.

Another example: you fight against a boss. You wipe. But oh goody goody a druid with SS died far away so he can ress. Too bad he can't ress the melee which arel too close to the boss so they have to release. About 15 ppl release. What would you rather do: wait 10 minutes till they get there or summon. I'll take the summoning any day of the week.

I saw how you explained the reason why you want this CD. And quite frankly i couldn't believe my eyes.
"So we have an excuse not to summon"

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WHAT?! Is summoning so hard? :OOO then tell me where, i didn't see the hard part :SSS
Oh, soulshards? :O they are "really" hard to get while raiding. I mean, i can't make myself to press Souldrain button everytime a mob is low healthed.

And if you aren't raiding, think about other people who are. /rant

PS: the summoning stone thingy which was planned would please both sides.

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Q u o t e:
We had to make a change to the new warlock summoning mechanic at the last second to prevent an exploit. Our apologies to all the law-abiding warlocks who have to suffer with a painful cooldown on your summon in order to fix this problem. We plan on getting the Ritual working correctly as soon as possible. You won't have to put up with a 2 minute cooldown for more than a few days. Standard caveats apply that this could change for any number of reasons, but we wanted to keep you informed of our plans at this time.

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Edit: Woah, I'm tired, didn't catch even the slightest of OP's post it seems.


I guess the reason for people wanting CD is so they can just slack instead of summoning people.

I don't think any lock wants the change to be permanent. But I have to say, even if it was only for one day, it was really nice when I joined a 25 man VoA raid to be able to say to the slack "GIVE ME SUMMON I'M IN DALARAN" people: "sorry, summon is on cooldown, better @!%#ing walk!"

Same reason others are slacking and not moving to the instance/raid.

Works for me :-)

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"GIVE ME SUMMON I'M IN DALARAN" people: "sorry, summon is on cooldown, better @!%#ing walk!"

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Yes it is a pain in guild raids.

But it was nice for at least one day to not be on the receiving end of PuG raid abuse berating me to summon 10 people idling in Dalaran.

Guy1: everyone move!
Guy2 whispers you: summon me plx
Guy3 whispers you: summon
Guy4 whispers you: summon please
Me: Unless you want to wait 20 minutes for summons I suggest you *run* to the raid
Guy2: wat? lol
Guy3 whispers you: summon
Me: Summon is bugged and on 2min cd
Guy3: ...
Guy1 RW: Anyone not here in 3 minutes gets kicked
Guy1 RW: MOVE!
Guy4: gay
Guy3 whispers you: summon

Guy3 got what he deserved =P

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Unless NONE of you are raiding or will raid, then it's acceptible. Example: naxx 25 run has started. ppl are with HS CD in orgrimmar and the summoning stone is inhabited by 25 allies. And this seems to happen ALL THE TIME. So yeah, it's so fun to wait 20 minutes before you can summon 10 ppl to the raid.

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You do know there is a big summoning stone right outside of every instance ?

Now don't get me wrong, it will be good for all those shard QQ'ers (running out of shards has never really been a problem to me) and the one good side to that cooldown bug atm is that it actually people need to stop slacking and move their asses on their own, and no, having the hs on cd while in Org is not an acceptable excuse, we all know how to deal with that.

If you are a real raider, you make sure you dont get to that situation, you are instead ready and waiting outside the instance with all consumables ready!

There is 1 flaw to the new summoning portal thingy though, it makes a bit of a hassle when you need to summon only that 1 peep into the raid when you need to replace someone etc... (which is imo one of the few real reasons you should be "needing" a summon), other than that, this new summon system will only encourage slacking for the other 20(ish) raid members.

But in the end of the day, im happy since now I dont have to summon all them slackers in the raid myself ^^ I can just make the summon stone and /sleep while letting rest of the raid do the summoning.

Either case, slacking ftw.

If we all are raiders, nobody needs a summon - they would all prepare and go to the raid by themself.
I am NEVER summoning slackers before the raid unless they have to wait for possible respecs etc.

I spend time getting shards, moving to raid on time, etc... while others slack?
I simply refuse to summon idiots who always have their HS on cd and are in oggrimar, it is usually ALWAYS the same people.

first of all - all raid members should be at the enternance before raid starts - if they arent - blame your leaders.

Second - you can use meeting stone when you are 25

third - i dont know - you are stupid so you dont understand what is wroted or you didnt read that - ill try to explain you:

summoning gets CD only becouse it should be for multiple ussed - but something goes wrong and they didnt make multiple ussed but they give CD on it - there is BLUE topic on this forum maded yesterday and explaining all.


So once again stop crying and stop saying bull%%@%.

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Yes it is a pain in guild raids.

But it was nice for at least one day to not be on the receiving end of PuG raid abuse berating me to summon 10 people idling in Dalaran.

Guy1: everyone move!
Guy2 whispers you: summon me plx
Guy3 whispers you: summon
Guy4 whispers you: summon please
Me: Unless you want to wait 20 minutes for summons I suggest you *run* to the raid
Guy2: wat? lol
Guy3 whispers you: summon
Me: Summon is bugged and on 2min cd
Guy3: ...
Guy1 RW: Anyone not here in 3 minutes gets kicked
Guy1 RW: MOVE!
Guy4: gay
Guy3 whispers you: summon

Guy3 got what he deserved =P

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Heh, this reminds me of a city raid pug not long ago, we were running all 4 cities and a big chunk of the people in the raid thought that they would get carried through the whole thing by getting summoned at every step, needless to say, a lot of them didnt get their achievements...

Now I was not being a total prick, I did summon a lot of people but those standing in Dalaran and other major cities yelling for summon without even trying to make the effort of coming there themselfs as the other half of the raid did, I didnt summon, its just plain stupidity to expect to be carried all the way through these things.

Obviously the stone will help our shards more than a cooldown will. I'm just pro the cooldown because now at least the slackers in our raids are actually spiting everyone who bothers to show up on time instead of just me.

For the record, the summoning stones outside instances are camped by pvp enabled twats who amuse themselves by standing in front of summons and get attacked by people rightclicking them instead of the portal. This already once resulted in a pvp war outside sarth and took the piss tbh.

Edit: removed typo

I always have problem with understanding, why Locks can walk/fly to instance, and all other people just write: Summ plox etc...

It's a pro's and con's arguement

People just looked into the pro's of and didn't think about the negative side.

Clearly a CD on it would be ghetto. I highly doubt blizz will keep the CD. It would defeat the purpose of the spell.

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U're stupid... just plain stupid...

Unless NONE of you are raiding or will raid, then it's acceptible. Example: naxx 25 run has started. ppl are with HS CD in orgrimmar and the summoning stone is inhabited by 25 allies. And this seems to happen ALL THE TIME. So yeah, it's so fun to wait 20 minutes before you can summon 10 ppl to the raid.

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The point is, this change will teach the slackers it's unacceptable to be in Org at raid time with hs on cooldown.

Slackers? ye.. and if you they are. is summoning them hard? i want the raid to start faster so i summon everyone. it's not that the summon costs money.

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I guess the reason for people wanting CD is so they can just slack instead of summoning people.

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How come that I could get there and others are everywhere around the world but in the instance they're supposed to be?

I don't really see the huge difference with a 2 min CD. If I understand it right, creating the summoning portal that lasts for 5 min has a 2 min CD but using the summoning portal has no CD. Or am I wrong?

I thought the CD was just temporary due to issues.

I am not so sure why all u guys so angry about summoning guildies to raids. What if the mage says I am not buffing you, you should have got pot/scroll. just stoopid

Raids are supposed to be teamwork, not I'm not helping you coz u lazy.

If guys need summon, then I summon, I usually ask before hand as no that hard for 3 guys to get there and summon rest.

No wonder some guys hate locks. Summon basically it's 1 mob!

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Example: naxx 25 run has started. ppl are with HS CD in orgrimmar and the summoning stone is inhabited by 25 allies. And this seems to happen ALL THE TIME.

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1. People who are on HS CD in orgrimmar should be sacked. They knew there was a raid, they should have thought ahead. I'm always at the instance entrance on raid time, why can i do it and they can't?
2. PvE server.


Well, all things considered, yeah the CD is pretty annoying in certain situations, like having to wait for it to summon the people who died on the way to loatheb.