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  • 0. Flask of Stoneblood   16/01/2009 07:42:30 PST
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Unless I'm mistaken, or unless I simply haven't discovered the recipe yet, there is no other flask for tanks that came out in lick king (there is of course elixir of protection, but im talking flasks).

When you compare this flask, that requires some fairly costly mats and look at the bonuses it gives, sure it may be good for some tanks.

Compare it with Flask of Fortification to see just how wrong that is.

Flask of Stoneblood = 650 health for 2 hours
Flask of Fortification = 500 health and 10 defense rating for 2 hours.

Any tank with a brain would go for Flask of Fortification, because gaining 150 health instead of 10 defense rating is a bit terrible. It would be nice if we could get a proper tanking flask, one that level 80 tanks will actually use that doesn't require me to go farm level 70 herbs and have to go to shattrath to create them.
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  • 1. Re: Flask of Stoneblood   16/01/2009 10:25:06 PST
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Unless I'm mistaken, or unless I simply haven't discovered the recipe yet, there is no other flask for tanks that came out in lick king (there is of course elixir of protection, but im talking flasks).

When you compare this flask, that requires some fairly costly mats and look at the bonuses it gives, sure it may be good for some tanks.

Compare it with Flask of Fortification to see just how wrong that is.

Flask of Stoneblood = 650 health for 2 hours
Flask of Fortification = 500 health and 10 defense rating for 2 hours.

Any tank with a brain would go for Flask of Fortification, because gaining 150 health instead of 10 defense rating is a bit terrible. It would be nice if we could get a proper tanking flask, one that level 80 tanks will actually use that doesn't require me to go farm level 70 herbs and have to go to shattrath to create them.


Getting fixed next patch.

Def capped (which you should be while tanking) tanks, usually just stack HP. So you're probably a minority here.

I dó agree the flask is sucky.
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  • 2. Re: Flask of Stoneblood   16/01/2009 14:13:57 PST
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Getting fixed next patch.

Def capped (which you should be while tanking) tanks, usually just stack HP. So you're probably a minority here.

I dó agree the flask is sucky.

There isn't a "def cap". Tanks are uncrittable at 540 defense, but every point of defense over that still stacks avoidance.

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  • 3. Re: Flask of Stoneblood   16/01/2009 16:28:24 PST
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i actually use that flask but only because i am herb/alchemist myself
so i get some more hp otherwise i wouldnt bother with it not when bosses on hc hits for way more then that ,
its a small buff
but i would have wished that it was more like flask of the frostwyrm good.
so when i farm mats for Fotf i usually makes 1-2 of stoneblood just too use when i do HC
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  • 4. Re: Flask of Stoneblood   17/01/2009 00:14:55 PST
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Getting fixed next patch.

Def capped (which you should be while tanking) tanks, usually just stack HP. So you're probably a minority here.

I dó agree the flask is sucky.


What exactly is getting fixed in patch? There's nothing about flasks in patchnotes except that you wont need a Alchemy Lab to make older ones.

If you dont like the game stop playing, it's not that hard.
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  • 5. Re: Flask of Stoneblood   17/01/2009 03:04:43 PST
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which is what he said.

read the bold part.
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  • 6. Re: Flask of Stoneblood   17/01/2009 03:15:23 PST
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which is what he said.

read the bold part.


Missed that, only read the reply since he quoted the whole post instead of the sentance which was actually relevant as the post as a whole was about Stoneblood not being good enough ;)

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  • 7. Re: Flask of Stoneblood   17/01/2009 03:29:58 PST
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avoidance > stacking stamina/hp

so id rather have some flask with defense or dodge (or a shield bloxk rating/value even)

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  • 8. Re: Flask of Stoneblood   08/04/2009 08:04:17 PDT
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We currently have plans to improve Flask of Stoneblood so that it will increases the player's maximum health by 1300. We feel that the current 650 health is simply too low, so buffing it seems like the right thing to do.

Please keep in mind that we are not fans of the idea of every new flask or upgrade having the exact same stats as before, but with higher numbers as the only difference. We would like to do something more interesting instead; for an example we are considering the next tanking flask to have the same or lower health, but with extra mitigation stats like armor or defense on it.

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  • 9. Re: Flask of Stoneblood   08/04/2009 08:16:15 PDT
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We currently have plans to improve Flask of Stoneblood so that it will increases the player's maximum health by 1300. We feel that the current 650 health is simply too low, so buffing it seems like the right thing to do.

Please keep in mind that we are not fans of the idea of every new flask or upgrade having the exact same stats as before, but with higher numbers as the only difference. We would like to do something more interesting instead; for an example we are considering the next tanking flask to have the same or lower health, but with extra mitigation stats like armor or defense on it.


That's cool but how about some funny flasks like the karazhan books for example? I like things with a shorter buff but with greater power rather than straight forward +stats

And ofcourse my first first!

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  • 10. Re: Flask of Stoneblood   08/04/2009 11:11:33 PDT
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We currently have plans to improve Flask of Stoneblood so that it will increases the player's maximum health by 1300. We feel that the current 650 health is simply too low, so buffing it seems like the right thing to do.

Please keep in mind that we are not fans of the idea of every new flask or upgrade having the exact same stats as before, but with higher numbers as the only difference. We would like to do something more interesting instead; for an example we are considering the next tanking flask to have the same or lower health, but with extra mitigation stats like armor or defense on it.

simple question- WHEN ?
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  • 11. Re: Flask of Stoneblood   08/04/2009 11:18:50 PDT
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Q u o t e:
We currently have plans to improve Flask of Stoneblood so that it will increases the player's maximum health by 1300. We feel that the current 650 health is simply too low, so buffing it seems like the right thing to do.

Please keep in mind that we are not fans of the idea of every new flask or upgrade having the exact same stats as before, but with higher numbers as the only difference. We would like to do something more interesting instead; for an example we are considering the next tanking flask to have the same or lower health, but with extra mitigation stats like armor or defense on it.


If you wanna make the flask intresting maybe have a proc chance on it increasing stat or something when struck or whatever.

Just an idea. Maybe with random stat increases.
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  • 12. Re: Flask of Stoneblood   09/04/2009 03:28:01 PDT
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Don't forget to fix mixology to give a decent buff for tanks too. 50 stamina would be equal to other professions.
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