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Fjalarina

< Seraphim >

Defias Brotherhood

0. Dual Talent - Include Glyphs aswell? 03/12/2008 12:00:30 PST

Is there anyone that know if the Dual Talent option will contain Glyph changes aswell? Since most glyphs getting so damn expensive now, even more than the respecc cost I really think there should be a Glyph setup that is binded to the specific spec. What do you people think about it?
Cause if it will NOT contain Glyph setups you still have to go to a town and reglyph everytime. And the blue posts I've read, the meaning with the Dual Talent is that you dont have to go back to town everytime you want a respecc etc.

Kamizah

< Darkwind >

Stormscale

1. Re: Dual Talent - Include Glyphs aswell? 03/12/2008 12:07:32 PST

Hope so.

And keybindings.

Chlorr

Shadowsong

2. Re: Dual Talent - Include Glyphs aswell? 03/12/2008 12:36:41 PST

I think they shouldnt, because then noone will ever need to buy glyphs again

And, that will mean people still have main specs, sure i can change to my second spec to do my dailies but i will still have my healing glyphs, it means people still have to specialize, just they dont wont get penalized for doing so.

So yes to dual specs, no to dual glyphs

Sahtra

< Fish Feast >

Bloodhoof

4. Re: Dual Talent - Include Glyphs aswell? 03/12/2008 12:44:34 PST

They shouldn't IMO. And you should do fine without the glyphs anyway. We've made it for 4 years without glyphs so far anyway. :/

"I used to be a WHAT?!"

Radan

Earthen Ring

5. Re: Dual Talent - Include Glyphs aswell? 03/12/2008 12:53:57 PST

Q u o t e:
They shouldn't IMO. And you should do fine without the glyphs anyway. We've made it for 4 years without glyphs so far anyway. :/

I am inclined to agree. I mean, while glyphs are certainly useful I can do without them. In a few months when I get to feel the real WotLK (lvl80) I might disagree but so far I am fine without them.

I don't post from alts, so this is my main.

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Jaybee - Spinebreaker

Mellanslag

Ravencrest

6. Re: Dual Talent - Include Glyphs aswell? 03/12/2008 13:47:23 PST

They said that glyphs would be switchable with dual specc

Zaher

< Disharmony >

Stormreaver

7. Re: Dual Talent - Include Glyphs aswell? 03/12/2008 13:54:52 PST

Q u o t e:
They said that glyphs would be switchable with dual specc

This is true. I'm afraid I can't be bothered to look up the source, but I'm fairly confident I've seen someone from blizzard confirm that according to current plans, when switching specs with the dual spec system, you will also change glyphs and action bar bindings.

Terciel

Shadowsong

8. Re: Dual Talent - Include Glyphs aswell? 03/12/2008 14:23:34 PST

Q u o t e:
They said that glyphs would be switchable with dual specc

Well, then lets tell them how bad an idea it is.

Seriously, why do they hate scribes?

Lunarrei

Dunemaul

9. Re: Dual Talent - Include Glyphs aswell? 03/12/2008 14:25:48 PST

Q u o t e:

This is true. I'm afraid I can't be bothered to look up the source, but I'm fairly confident I've seen someone from blizzard confirm that according to current plans, when switching specs with the dual spec system, you will also change glyphs and action bar bindings.

Confirmed, I remember that too. That however doesn't mean they won't change their mind eventually and scrap the idea.

I'd love it if it stayed though.

Pawsandclaws

Darksorrow

10. Re: Dual Talent - Include Glyphs aswell? 03/12/2008 14:29:32 PST

Saying inscription would be useless is just the same as saying <insert random crafting profession here> is useless. They all have their own advantages.
People won't buy glyphs anymore? Why not? I bet every day someone makes a new alt and starts playing it, guess what he needs.

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Lunarrei

Dunemaul

11. Re: Dual Talent - Include Glyphs aswell? 03/12/2008 14:30:09 PST

Q u o t e:

Well, then lets tell them how bad an idea it is.

Seriously, why do they hate scribes?

It's like enchants, you need them only once your gear upgrades. It's the same with glyphs, once you get better gear you might not need some of them (like Glyph of Mage Armor for mages for instance).

Glyphs should not turn into the respecc cost. The whole dual specc idea is there to prevent it. If you still have to buy 30g worth of glyphs every time you change talents then the whole idea of changing specc for a boss in a raid is gone since you would have to be portalled to a city to change glyphs.

Realistically speaking, it would be very very strange if Bliizard didn't include glyph change to dual speccs.

Doniel

< The Unforgiven >

Darkspear

12. Re: Dual Talent - Include Glyphs aswell? 03/12/2008 14:35:17 PST

Glyphs are too important not to include with dual speccing.

I think dual speccing will actually help scribes sell more glyphs...not only because everyone will need six new glyphs for their new spec, but also because it's a lot more tempting to respec your secondary spec than it is to respec your primary spec. If I can switch between elemental, enhancement, and PvP specs all without ever having to touch my primary PvE raiding resto spec, I'm much more likely to do it.

Wryxian

Blizzard Poster

13. Re: Dual Talent - Include Glyphs aswell? 09/12/2008 02:18:24 PST

Well we agree that swapping talent specs isn't quite enough. No use having a whole load of glyphs for your tanking spec that are almost useless when you're dealing damage, for example. We'd also like to swap over action bars too -- it'd be a pain if you're trying to Mind Flay and you end up trying to Flash Heal!

So yes we have taken these kind of considerations into account and we'd like the feature to do more than "just" swap talent specs.

Because it is a bit more featured than originally mentioned, we'll be needing to do a bit more work on it before we can share it with you. So we're hoping to bring this feature to you in our next major content patch, but only if we're happy enough with it to make it live.

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Celebrim

< Doomed >

Burning Legion

14. Re: Dual Talent - Include Glyphs aswell? 09/12/2008 02:23:10 PST

Q u o t e:
Well we agree that swapping talent specs isn't quite enough. No use having a whole load of glyphs for your tanking spec that are almost useless when you're dealing damage, for example. We'd also like to swap over action bars too -- it'd be a pain if you're trying to Mind Flay and you end up trying to Flash Heal!

So yes we have taken these kind of considerations into account and we'd like the feature to do more than "just" swap talent specs.

Because it is a bit more featured than originally mentioned, we'll be needing to do a bit more work on it before we can share it with you. So we're hoping to bring this feature to you in our next major content patch, but only if we're happy enough with it to make it live.

Nice response.

I'm looking forward to it. I cant wait for the idea that I will be able to switch from a PvE to a gankin... I mean PvP spec when I see an enemy.

Ihealfolks

< Wicked Madness >

Sylvanas

15. Re: Dual Talent - Include Glyphs aswell? 09/12/2008 02:27:39 PST

Q u o t e:

Well, then lets tell them how bad an idea it is.

Seriously, why do they hate scribes?

Yes because everybdy wants to spend 200g every time they change speccs ? Right right ?

The happy troll

Tinker

Bloodhoof

16. Re: Dual Talent - Include Glyphs aswell? 09/12/2008 02:33:05 PST

Q u o t e:
Well we agree that swapping talent specs isn't quite enough. No use having a whole load of glyphs for your tanking spec that are almost useless when you're dealing damage, for example. We'd also like to swap over action bars too -- it'd be a pain if you're trying to Mind Flay and you end up trying to Flash Heal!

So yes we have taken these kind of considerations into account and we'd like the feature to do more than "just" swap talent specs.

Because it is a bit more featured than originally mentioned, we'll be needing to do a bit more work on it before we can share it with you. So we're hoping to bring this feature to you in our next major content patch, but only if we're happy enough with it to make it live.

Hey, that's good news.

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    clapyourhands();

}

Aenae

< Sinisters >

Outland

17. Re: Dual Talent - Include Glyphs aswell? 09/12/2008 03:48:53 PST

Q u o t e:

Because it is a bit more featured than originally mentioned, we'll be needing to do a bit more work on it before we can share it with you. So we're hoping to bring this feature to you in our next major content patch, but only if we're happy enough with it to make it live.

As this would be a very major feature for me as paladin (currently im mixing dps and healing glyps, and i respec for almost every raid) i wouldn't blame anyone if you hold 3.1 until this feature is ready :)

Illumination is NOT mana regen
Illumination is a mana reduction talent like Tree of Life (it is just a lot worse)

Finmoo

Kazzak

18. Re: Dual Talent - Include Glyphs aswell? 09/12/2008 03:50:34 PST

This will happen' in PuGs if you have Warrior/Paladin/DK dps with ya.
-OMGWTFPWN -tanking weapon drops-
Tank: "YES FINALLY I GOT IT!!!! 4 MONTHS OF ENDLESS FARMING IN THIS DAMN INSTANCE!!! YEAAAH!!!11!"
Tank need roll: 14
DpsPala need roll: 89
DpsPala receives loot: OMGWTFPWN -tanking weapon
Tank: "WHAT THE ASDSAD!!!! I AM THE TANK"
DpsPala: "Im prot spec baby" /dance

>.<

Dualtalents could be cool though. I could get quests done some faster ;<

Shulo

< Latronum Grex >

Die Silberne Hand

19. Re: Dual Talent - Include Glyphs aswell? 09/12/2008 03:50:36 PST

Q u o t e:
No use having a whole load of glyphs for your tanking spec that are almost useless when you're dealing damage, for example.

This would kill Inscription. There's a reason these things stack up to 5 in your inventory. You save yourself 50g per respec, then 15g for 3 glyphs shouldn't be that of a problem.
Seriously.

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