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  • Shadowsong
  • 0. Information About 2.3/2.4/.. (OLD)   24/06/2007 17:33:22 PDT
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Intro:

    Welcome,

    The purpose of this sticky is to gather all information regarding the 2.3/2.4 patches and beyond. You will find information about the future patches but also information of fixes.

    All the information that is provided here is from Blizzard or is from trustworthy sources (exception of chapter 4). Details provided here may, however, change over time.

    This topic is updated each week (on Mondays/Tuesdays) (for details see "What's new & changed") and frequently given answers to questions. Feel free to ask questions, but first read all I wrote. Chances are I already discussed the thing you are going to ask about.

    Yours sincerely,
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What's new & changed:

  • [31-07-07 15:00]
    - Updated 1.2.1
    - Updated 1.3.3
    - Added 1.3.11
    - Added 1.4.3
    - Added 1.5.1 on request
    - Updated chapter 3

  • [24-07-07 04:10]
    - Added a few new source links to various Q&A
    - Updated 1.2.8
    - Added 1.2.9
    - Added 1.6.6

  • [17-07-07 01:40]
    - Removed some 2.2 related stuff
    - Updated 1.2.4
    - Updated 1.3.2
    - Added 1.3.10
    - Updated 1.4.1
    - Updated 1.7.2

  • [10-07-07 04:00]
    - Added 1.2.7
    - Added 1.2.8
    - Updated 1.6.4
    - Added 2.5
    - Updated chapter 3
    - Added various things to chapter 4 (still not done yet though!)

  • [25-06-07 02:50]
    - Some small corrections
    - Corrected some grammar/spelling mistakes (Cheers Kolphes!)
    - Removed a couple of 2.1.x changes
    - Removed some old changes
    - Added source to 1.7.4
    - Added chapter 4 (please note it's speculation!)

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  • Shadowsong
  • 1. Chapter 1.1 & 1.2   24/06/2007 17:34:24 PDT
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1.1 Upcoming patches (General)

1.1.1Q Sometimes I die in mid-air when using a flying mount or flight form -not to mention when I die on a floating rock. Will this ever get changed or fixed?


1.1.2Q A while back players submitted a lot of ideas for new emotes. Any idea if they are still planned?



1.2 Upcoming patches (Talents, Skills & Classes)

1.2.1Q Will some classes get new class reviews?


1.2.2Q What about Paladins?


1.2.3Q Will Druids ever get to use consumables during forms?


1.2.4Q Know some upcoming Priests changes?


1.2.5Q Will the Rogues get a new stealth animation? The current one is too buggy.


1.2.6Q Will we ever get visual timers for various things?


1.2.7Q Will Druids get more variation in forms?


1.2.8Q The Druid class is somewhat under-represented in the Arenas. Will Druids get buffed? What about Hunters?


1.2.9Q Are there any plans to allow Druids to use more abilities in Tree of Life form?

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  • Shadowsong
  • 2. Chapter 1.3: Dungeons, Battlegrounds & PvP   24/06/2007 17:35:29 PDT
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1.3 Upcoming patches (Dungeons, Battlegrounds & PvP)

1.3.1Q Will we get new dungeons?


1.3.2Q Any information known about Zul’Aman?


1.3.3Q Will PvP ever be added to the LFG-system?


1.3.4Q Will we ever get an Arena PvP spectator feature?


1.3.5Q Currently there are no PvP Elekks or Hawkstriders ingame. Are there plans to add them?


1.3.6Q What’s the status of the Emerald Dream dungeon? Or Karazhan Lower Side, Grim Batol, Dalaran & Uldum?


1.3.7Q Will the Caverns of Time get additional quests? What about additional Caverns of Time instances?


1.3.8Q Follow-up on the glancing blows nerf, are there plans to nerf Crushing Blows?


1.3.9Q Will old dungeons get a heroic feature?


1.3.10Q Are there any plans for new PvP content or new Battlegrounds?


1.3.11Q Know any upcoming boss changes?

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  • Shadowsong
  • 3. Chapter 1.4, 1.5 & 1.6   24/06/2007 17:36:31 PDT
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1.4 Upcoming patches (Professions & Items)

1.4.1Q Some professions really could use a revamp. Will we get one? Also, is the Engineering revamp done?


1.4.2Q The Ashbringer story and item was never finished. Are there plans to continue the story-line?


1.4.3Q Will loot distribution ever change?



1.5 Upcoming patches (User Interface)

1.5.1Q Would it be possible to make a macro chain spell?



1.6 Upcoming patches (Lands, Reputation & Events)

1.6.1Q Ravenholdt is still unused, will it ever be useful?


1.6.2Q The Sunwell isn’t currently ingame, will it ever get added?


1.6.3Q Outland is suppose to be level 58 (and higher) exclusive. Yet I see lower levels roaming Outland. Is this a bug?


1.6.4Q Are there any plans to revamp old places?


1.6.5Q Will Gnomes get some more lore loving?


1.6.6Q Are there still any plans to add more weather effects?

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  • Shadowsong
  • 4. Chapter 1.7 & 1.8   24/06/2007 17:40:04 PDT
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1.7 Upcoming patches (Features)

1.7.1Q Is the Guild/Player housing feature still coming?


1.7.2Q What about the Guild bank feature?


1.7.3Q In the lore most characters have a last name. Will we ever see something like this?


1.7.4Q Will we ever get mini-games in WoW?



1.8 Upcoming patches (Misc)

1.8.1Q Will we see more translations of World of Warcraft; for example Greek WoW?


1.8.2Q Can we expect 'classic' (pre-TBC) realms?

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  • Shadowsong
  • 5. Chapter 2 & 3   24/06/2007 17:41:06 PDT
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2. Fixed soon

Currently there are no announced fixes yet


3.1 Compiled list (Patch 2.3)
(The numbering behind an item means see Q&A x.x.x for more information)

User Interface

  • /stopcasting lag workaround (1.5.1)


3.2 Compiled list (Patch 2.4)
(The numbering behind an item means see Q&A x.x.x for more information)

General

    Nothing known yet about patch 2.4.


3.3 Compiled list (Future)
(The numbering behind an item means see Q&A x.x.x for more information)

General

  • Death in mid-air fix (1.1.1)
  • Level restriction lifted on Outland (1.6.3)
  • Player suggested emotes (1.1.2)
Talents, Skills & Classes

  • Better Paladin tanking and DPS for Paladins (1.2.1)
  • Paladin protection itemisation revamps (1.2.2)
  • Shamans Enhancement revamped (1.2.1)
  • Druid consumables (1.2.3)
  • More Priest changes (1.2.4)
  • New Rogues’ stealth animation (1.2.5)
  • Visual totem timers for Shamans (1.2.6)
  • Variation in Druid form (1.2.7)
  • Arena buffs for Hunters and Druids (1.2.8)
  • More Druids abilities in tree-form (1.2.9)
Dungeons, Battlegrounds & PvP

  • Zul’Aman (1.3.1/1.3.2)
  • Emerald Dream (1.3.6)
  • Karazhan Lower Side (1.3.6)
  • Grim Batol (1.3.6)
  • Dalaran (1.3.6)
  • Uldum (1.3.6)
  • Arena PvP spectator (1.3.4)
  • PvP Elekk and Hawkstrider (1.3.5)
  • More COT instances/quests (1.3.7)
  • Crushing Blows nerf (1.3.8)
  • PvP LFG-system addition (1.3.3)
Professions & Items

  • Profession reviews (1.4.1)
  • Ashbringer quest (1.4.2)
Lands, Reputation & Events

  • Sunwell Plateau (1.6.2)
  • More Ravenholdt (1.6.1)
  • More Gnome lore (1.6.5)
  • Dustwallow Marsh updates (1.6.4)
  • More Azeroth places revamped (1.6.4)
Features

  • Guild Bank (1.7.2)
  • Guild Housing (1.7.1)
  • Last name for character names (1.7.3)
  • Mini-games (1.7.4)

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  • Shadowsong
  • 6. Chapter 4.1 & 4.2   24/06/2007 17:42:07 PDT
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4. Speculations

Disclaimer: Do note that this is not real information! This is just pure speculation and may not reflect Blizzard’s actual ideas.

It’s no surprise that Blizzard will release second expansion for World of Warcraft in 2008. The question still remains though, what will it contain.


4.1 Speculations (The next expansion)

Northrend

    Why?
  • The Legion has been crippled since the visit to Outland; Arthas is making his move to strike.
  • The second biggest threat to Azeroth is the Scourge; it’s time to stop them.
  • Northrend is the most discussed place since Outland.
  • In terms of content it would be bigger then Outland.

    Why not?
  • Are we prepared to take on Arthas (aka the Lich King)?

    Hints
  • Some hidden Northrend models can be found in patch 2.1
  • Drysc has posted before that players won’t take Arthas on level 70 but level 80; it’s unsure if he was joking or not, one can see it as a hint.


Beyond Outland

    Why?
  • We only fought Illidan’s forces; the Legion is still at large.
  • With Illidan out of the way and the portals no longer closed, the Legion has to strike.

    Why not?
  • Not much is known about the lands beyond Outland.
  • Are fans waiting for more “outer-space” areas?

    Hints
  • Before the Burning Crusade was released it has been many times said by Blizzard that we would only get a piece of Outland. There are still lands floating around, not to forget the portals leading to other places.


The Emerald Dream

    Why?
  • It will introduce a unique landscape.
  • In terms of content it will introduce Azeroth unchanged; this means there was never a sundering in this version. Enough room for zones!

    Why not?
  • Too big for now?

    Hints
  • There are enough (unfinished) quests that lead to the Emerald Dream.
  • There are already some models of the Emerald Dream in WoW directories


The most obvious choice would be Northrend. Further speculation will go about Northrend.


4.2 Speculations (The new races)

Northrend won’t introduce many new races. It’s also hard to imagine one that could fit in with the Horde or Alliance. Also if one thing has taught us in the past; expect the unexpected.

Tuskarr

    Why:
  • Natives of Northrend

    Why not:
  • They only made a few appearances in the game/lore.

    Faction:
  • Alliance

    Classes:
  • Druid
  • Shaman
  • Warrior

    Starting place:
  • A remote ice island


Furbolgs

    Why:
  • Furbolgs original home was Northrend
  • The Scourge inflicted a lot of damage to this race

    Why not:
  • Would they work great in terms of appearance?

    Faction:
  • Alliance

    Classes:
  • Druids
  • Shamans
  • Hunters
  • Warrior
  • Priest

    Starting place:
  • Mount Hyjal


Factions

    Why:
  • There aren’t that many races to pick; it would make sense to introduce factions to certain races.
  • No more new race X is better then race Y.

    Why not:
  • Wouldn’t make sense in terms of cross-faction talk.

    Races:
  • Goblins
  • Pandaren
  • Ogres


More races coming soon!

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  • Shadowsong
  • 7. Chapter 4.3, 4.4, 4.5 & 4.6   24/06/2007 17:43:09 PDT
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4.3 Speculations (The new dungeons)

    So far it is known that the new dungeons will introduce old dungeons in Azeroth. This to make sure Azeroth doesn’t die out. Here’s what I think we’ll see:

  • Drak'Tharon Keep (the place Arthas found Frostmourne)
  • Gundrak (Zul’Gurub meets Northrend)
  • Grim Batol Would make sense since Blizzard wants to add more Dwarven lore
  • Icecrown Citadel (time to visit the lich king!)
  • Riplash Ruins (a part of the Nerubian city of Azjol-Nerub, now infested with Naga)
  • Temple of Storms (er.. it’s mysterious)
  • Ulduar & Uldum (Time to continue the Dwarven/Gnome/Old gods lore)

4.4 Speculations (The new places)

  • Isle of Kezan (it’s above Undermine, so it would make sense)
  • Kul Tiras (old work in progress whiteboards showed a connection between Undermine and Kul Tiras)
  • Gilneas Would make sense if Kul Tiras would be releases
  • Northrend
  • Undermine (only way you can reach Northrend)

4.5 Speculations (Features)

  • Level 80 (10 levels between TBC and WoW worked great, level 80 sounds fair enough)
  • Hero classes Northrend will require loads of heroes to defeat the armies of the lich!
  • Guild housing (about time they release this feature)

4.6 Speculations (Classes)

    Coming soon near you!

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  • Shadowsong
  • 8. The end   24/06/2007 17:44:12 PDT
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It’s been a while since I did a repost of this thread. Along side a repost I added some adjustments, removed some old stuff and introduced chapter 4 (Been a while I did a speculation chapter).

I hope you enjoy yet another issue of my "Information about"-thread. As always, read what I wrote, ask if there's no answer to your question.

Enjoy!

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  • Shadowsong
  • 9. Reserved   24/06/2007 17:45:17 PDT
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Reserved in case of post limit overflow (gotta hate that when that happens) .

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  • 10. Re: Chapter 4.1 & 4.2   24/06/2007 17:49:57 PDT
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Nice information as always! Thanks!
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  • Scarshield Legion
  • 11. Re: Chapter 4.1 & 4.2   24/06/2007 18:04:49 PDT
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Good read buddy, I really like these posts, keeps me updated most of the time :D
Incoming features sound great!

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  • Burning Steppes
  • 12. Re: Chapter 4.1 & 4.2   24/06/2007 20:06:57 PDT
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3rd! Nice speculation, but with Blizzard, u can never be too sure (except that shamans will get nerfed next patch, again. That's a constant :P)
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  • Daggerspine
  • 13. Re: Information About 2.2/2.3/.. (Updated: 25   24/06/2007 20:31:45 PDT
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In case you hadn't noticed it, while not officialy confiirmed (but not denied either by Neths post in the version on the official wow forums)

This thread - http://elitistjerks.com/showthread.php?t=12006
from the Elitist Jerks forum has scans of an article from the magazine "Games for Windows" which contains rather juicy bits of infomation from the developers on the upcoming features of in game VOIP and guild banks.

I'm guessing the reason that these details havn't been written in blue is either, they're not set in stone yet or Blizzard has agreed to withhold the infomation for a month'ish so as not to ruin the 'exclusivity' of the article.

Tanking - someone's go to do the dirty work :P
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  • Shadowsong
  • 14. Re: Information About 2.2/2.3/.. (Updated: 25   25/06/2007 03:50:20 PDT
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Q u o t e:
In case you hadn't noticed it, while not officialy confiirmed (but not denied either by Neths post in the version on the official wow forums)

This thread - http://elitistjerks.com/showthread.php?t=12006
from the Elitist Jerks forum has scans of an article from the magazine "Games for Windows" which contains rather juicy bits of infomation from the developers on the upcoming features of in game VOIP and guild banks.

I'm guessing the reason that these details havn't been written in blue is either, they're not set in stone yet or Blizzard has agreed to withhold the infomation for a month'ish so as not to ruin the 'exclusivity' of the article.


Check the source links of 1.7.5. They are clearly posted in blue.

Also I don't really see why a magazine would make up a story like this and last but not least, Blizzard only released full details once things are finalized for them.

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  • 15. Re: Information About 2.2/2.3/.. (Updated: 25-06)   25/06/2007 14:45:06 PDT
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First of all, this is not whine, well... in fact i'm little bit confused. You said that warrior's PvP abilities will be improved. As i'm not playing with warrior, i'm prob not person who can judge theirs PvP abilities. But, reading lot of posts about combo in Arena (which is skeleton of PvPing in TBC) warrior + pally is OP. I'm aware that lot of ppl r... let say... not pushing maximum from their class, but rage agaisnt that combo was great... Like i said, i'm confused (or did i something missread?).


Q u o t e:

stunlock = stunning over time is worthless in arenas where every second counts
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  • Bronze Dragonflight
  • 16. Re: Information About 2.2/2.3/.. (Updated: 25-06)   26/06/2007 00:05:11 PDT
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I especially like the speculations update, even though it's still just speculation.

Got told about this thread two weeks ago and was looking forward to an update.
Do you update it every two weeks or just when you've got enough info for an update?
Oh, by the way, like my sig? (aaaaaaaah, link to the old version... shame on me)

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  • Bronze Dragonflight
  • 17. Re: Information About 2.2/2.3/.. (Updated: 25-06)   26/06/2007 00:10:11 PDT
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Q u o t e:
Oh, by the way, like my sig? (aaaaaaaah, link to the old version... shame on me)


Changed it :)

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  • Shadowsong
  • 18. Re: Information About 2.2/2.3/.. (Updated: 25   26/06/2007 08:48:37 PDT
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Q u o t e:
I especially like the speculations update, even though it's still just speculation.

Got told about this thread two weeks ago and was looking forward to an update.
Do you update it every two weeks or just when you've got enough info for an update?
Oh, by the way, like my sig? (aaaaaaaah, link to the old version... shame on me)


It's updated on basis of when I got updates. Updates happen almost every Monday/Tuesday. Of course, some updates I add when there are no updates to post at all, like chapter 4, purely to keep the thread running and because it's fun :-)

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  • Scarshield Legion
  • 19. Re: Information About 2.2/2.3/.. (Updated: 25   26/06/2007 09:17:11 PDT
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First, I assume that for this expansion it is required to have the following installed:
- Original WoW;
- The Burning Crusade.
Or can you have the 2nd expansion with just WoW? For me it is not very relevant, because I have TBC.
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