i would bump this a milon times but only got the time for one atm :P

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not sure about the more specific skills of paladins but here are just my 2 cents, personally from what ive seen retri pala dps isnt that bad, maybe it needs a slight buff in raids, because frankly in pvp they have some very acceptable burst damage sometimes. I know this is slightly biased and i'll probably get flamed for it, but tbh retribution is looking more and more like arms, and i dont think they should be so similar. I would much rather see the retribution tree increase their viability in pve by improving their benefit to groups/raids, after all they are a melee support class, or give them more viability as hybrid's, like druids, arguably THE hybrid at the moment.

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Yeh, absolutely, I don't want to do the damage of a rogue or hunter/pet but I want to offer a raid/group more than just a 2% damage buff and a 3% crit buff. When you do the maths those numbers really are not high enough.

I am lucky in that my guild lets me raid but sometimes when we struggle to get particular bosses down I do think it's because I am not putting out quite enough damage, a buff to our overall damage output in the region of say 20% more than we do now would help matters greatly, it would put me in a slightly better position in the damage meters and would help to justify my place in the group/raid.

In addition, an increase in the usefulness of our raid buffs, aura's and judged seals would make us much more raid viable, raid leaders would be demanding a ret pally in the raid group, when that happens we know we have something worth having.

The one other thing we desperately need is some way to reduce threat in ret spec, If I go all out with dmaage I can generate threat considerably faster than a full epic geared prot spec warrior can, the result is I have to watch KTM very very careful, a run of three 2K+ crits usually gets me to the top of the aggro list and I end up dead, the problem is buffed in a 10 man I have in excess of 30% crit, it becomes very easy to get a run of crits :)

I realise of course blizzard have to be careful not to make the paladin overpowered in PvP, the argument usually is that the paladin can do some significant burst damage however that is very luck based, perhaps if they reduced the randomness and made things proc in a more consistent way that would reduce the risk of damage increases becoming too overpowered.

That was the best thing I've heard in a long time considering this matter, thanks ommra, you made my day

Thanks God!! Thanks Uther!!!! Thanks Blizz !!! Thanks Ommra!!!

I'M SOOOO HAPPY!

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Hello again, I just wanted to let you know that the developers have taken part of your suggestions, and are looking into improving the retribution paladin spec. You can probably expect something along the line of more sustained DPS in a raid and more raid utility, but we are not ready to reveal any details. This is still work in progress, so please be patient :)

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Hell, it's about time..

Thank you, Ommra :) <3
mucho respect to you

So nice!

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Hello again, I just wanted to let you know that the developers have taken part of your suggestions, and are looking into improving the retribution paladin spec. You can probably expect something along the line of more sustained DPS in a raid and more raid utility, but we are not ready to reveal any details. This is still work in progress, so please be patient :)

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wow, this is such awesome news! :-)

seems all our bumps and suggestions got us somewhere!

thanks for the reply Ommra, the Pala community salutes you.

time to start gathering some retri gear :-D

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Hello again, I just wanted to let you know that the developers have taken part of your suggestions, and are looking into improving the retribution paladin spec. You can probably expect something along the line of more sustained DPS in a raid and more raid utility, but we are not ready to reveal any details. This is still work in progress, so please be patient :)

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HOLY COW! Literally!

Thats damn sweet to hear <3

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Hello again, I just wanted to let you know that the developers have taken part of your suggestions, and are looking into improving the retribution paladin spec. You can probably expect something along the line of more sustained DPS in a raid and more raid utility, but we are not ready to reveal any details. This is still work in progress, so please be patient :)

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Thanks for the good news, I dont suppose there is a chance of releasing details before implementation so that we can give our thoughts and feelings before they make it into the game?

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Hello again, I just wanted to let you know that the developers have taken part of your suggestions, and are looking into improving the retribution paladin spec. You can probably expect something along the line of more sustained DPS in a raid and more raid utility, but we are not ready to reveal any details. This is still work in progress, so please be patient :)

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first time you bring me some good news Ommra ;)

I guess ill let this one go by without shooting at you.

Posting in a legendary thread!

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Hello again, I just wanted to let you know that the developers have taken part of your suggestions, and are looking into improving the retribution paladin spec. You can probably expect something along the line of more sustained DPS in a raid and more raid utility, but we are not ready to reveal any details. This is still work in progress, so please be patient :)

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Big thanks for the feedback :)

I hope the added utility and/or sustained dps will work nice in group pvp. Currently our burst is ok but sustained damage sucks, and utility is a bit lacking in pvp as well.

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I hope the added utility and/or sustained dps will work nice in group pvp. Currently our burst is ok but sustained damage sucks, and utility is a bit lacking in pvp as well.

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Blizzard said they are not ready to say anything and they need time to work on it.
So please don't let this topic became a collection of " do that / change this "

Ommra we all love u so much ^^!!

time to clean out the dust out of the ret set in the bank :DDD at long last

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time to clean out the dust out of the ret set in the bank :DDD at long last

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yea im gonna respec from prot to retri again! ^^