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  • 60. Re: suspended for multi boxing   31/03/2007 14:26:25 PDT
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Would we? Alright then. I'm too tired to argue, I'll probably kick start another debate tomorrow, or maybe even contribute to the subject!

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  • 61. Re: suspended for multi boxing   31/03/2007 14:39:00 PDT
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Geez, people.. Stop discussing if its legal or not. It is. Finished chapter now. And stop talkinga bout that guy who used 5 accounts and a priest and 4 mages. He still plays actually, but nevermind him. Hes completely OT.
Just mail the damn idiots sitting at the Billing Support or call them.

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I am the lock?
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  • 63. Re: suspended for multi boxing   31/03/2007 16:53:58 PDT
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I never thought that was wrong... as you do pay for both of the accounts, since when does blizz care?

All blizz sees latley is: $$$, £££, ... ... ... Now where the hell did i put that euro button?!

Nerf, nerf, nerf.... stop asking to nerf others... for once in your'e life ask to buff you!

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  • 64. Re: suspended for multi boxing   31/03/2007 17:02:39 PDT
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OK picture the scenario.

You have 3 brand new accounts & log into them all.

1st problem:- u now have 2 characters on constant follow mode that u cannot interact with directly UNLESS u continue to alt tab between the 3 of them.
It takes appx 2 seconds to Alt-Tab to the next running account with a clear picture, u now tell it to attack a mob. You now alt tab to the 3rd account thats another 2 seconds & in the chance that this account is ahealer, for example thats 4 seconds that a mob/s have been hitting the 1st character. Which means that u may now need to alt tab again to another account to tell it to protect/get a mob off another or now attack another mob & thus the cycle contiues, Still following....?
So unless u are running a program that IS 3rd party or a mass range of macros running from the 1st account that somehow communicate with the other 2 accounts then ur effectivly gonna have a hard time gettin anywhere.
Unless all 3 characters are hunters of course, as i have seen 3 nelfs on blood hoof of the same scenario of what i have just explained BUT they were 1 man character & 2 bots & quite learly a farmer & paid levelling service. As such multiboxing is/can be classed as against the "rules", if there is such a thing.

Its like life, just cause it CAN be done. Doesnt mean it SHUD be done.

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I'v said before. Warriors CAN heal, just gimme a bandage!
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  • 65. Re: suspended for multi boxing   31/03/2007 17:09:30 PDT
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OK picture the scenario.

You have 3 brand new accounts & log into them all.

1st problem:- u now have 2 characters on constant follow mode that u cannot interact with directly UNLESS u continue to alt tab between the 3 of them.
It takes appx 2 seconds to Alt-Tab to the next running account with a clear picture, u now tell it to attack a mob. You now alt tab to the 3rd account thats another 2 seconds & in the chance that this account is ahealer, for example thats 4 seconds that a mob/s have been hitting the 1st character. Which means that u may now need to alt tab again to another account to tell it to protect/get a mob off another or now attack another mob & thus the cycle contiues, Still following....?
So unless u are running a program that IS 3rd party or a mass range of macros running from the 1st account that somehow communicate with the other 2 accounts then ur effectivly gonna have a hard time gettin anywhere.
Unless all 3 characters are hunters of course, as i have seen 3 nelfs on blood hoof of the same scenario of what i have just explained BUT they were 1 man character & 2 bots & quite learly a farmer & paid levelling service. As such multiboxing is/can be classed as against the "rules", if there is such a thing.

Its like life, just cause it CAN be done. Doesnt mean it SHUD be done.


For that to be done someone must have a very good... extremely good computer.
Or do what my mate once did... use a secondary comp / laptop that is very near by... But he simply lvl'd a trial char as he was bored, had a trial account key (that came with the game) and was just curious...

Nerf, nerf, nerf.... stop asking to nerf others... for once in your'e life ask to buff you!

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  • 66. Re: suspended for multi boxing   31/03/2007 17:53:35 PDT
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Of course teh secondary computer is an option, but i was posting & reffering to a previous post of mine, in relation to 1 account per 1pc etc etc..... the post i made just explains why multi boxins shud b disallowed.

Its just one of those things i sevearly hate. Not cause i would not b able to do it, in time, but i look down on such things. I dunno but it fuels the entire "protect" our servers from the trash & such like.

Let them hate us, So long as they fear us.
I'v said before. Warriors CAN heal, just gimme a bandage!
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  • 67. Re: suspended for multi boxing   31/03/2007 17:59:22 PDT
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Personally, if u use such a way then deserve a ban.

Agreed its a nice & potentially easy way to lvl up characters & to instanes on ur own, if ur like that.

YET< the point of levelling up is a prime aspect for ebay acounts gold/rare item farminmg from 1 station & as such, as said, deserves a ban. no matter what.

Flame this post if u care to, im not bothered, the forums for opinions & thats what it is. If ppl dont like it, grow some skin.


See we have the typical Casual gamer that thinks everything is unfair.

may your soul burn in hell.

Multiboxing has always been. YES YES YES GO GO GO. from blizzard

i multibox now and then when i need to never been banned or warned for it, pure BS.
the GM was drunk and on crack.


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  • 68. Re: suspended for multi boxing   31/03/2007 18:00:59 PDT
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Of course teh secondary computer is an option, but i was posting & reffering to a previous post of mine, in relation to 1 account per 1pc etc etc..... the post i made just explains why multi boxins shud b disallowed.

Its just one of those things i sevearly hate. Not cause i would not b able to do it, in time, but i look down on such things. I dunno but it fuels the entire "protect" our servers from the trash & such like.


I understand what you mean, also i agree that it should be not allowed.... but ppl still do it and i bet it is hard to detect (especially if someone is using 2 comps)

Nerf, nerf, nerf.... stop asking to nerf others... for once in your'e life ask to buff you!

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  • 69. Re: suspended for multi boxing   31/03/2007 18:17:13 PDT
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Ironically, in some of the lore I'm writing about In-Character Gorgeras' life, clan and family tree, one of his ancestors was a disembodied talking head. His name? Gorgeras The Head.

All the Chieftains in Gorgeras' clan have been a Gorgeras. But Gorgeras The Head unlike the average forum troll had heart, stomach and spine, metaphorically. How he cast powerful magic and slayed hundreds of enemies in battle during his life though will remain a mystery.


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  • 70. Re: suspended for multi boxing   31/03/2007 18:41:01 PDT
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See we have the typical Casual gamer that thinks everything is unfair.

may your soul burn in hell.

Multiboxing has always been. YES YES YES GO GO GO. from blizzard

i multibox now and then when i need to never been banned or warned for it, pure BS.
the GM was drunk and on crack.




Lol, not quite a casual gamer. have had/used many characters in this game. Its called opinion so live with it, besides many ppl will have similer. u gonna be a idiot to them aswell>

Let them hate us, So long as they fear us.
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  • 71. Re: suspended for multi boxing   31/03/2007 18:51:37 PDT
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  • 72. Re: suspended for multi boxing   31/03/2007 19:00:58 PDT
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Lol, not quite a casual gamer. have had/used many characters in this game. Its called opinion so live with it, besides many ppl will have similer. u gonna be a idiot to them aswell>


that was my opinion.

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  • 74. Re: suspended for multi boxing   31/03/2007 22:19:23 PDT
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I've always liked dual boxxing, as it provides an extra dimension to an otherwise flat and frankly drab MMO universe. Ever since DAOC i've been doing it. If you didn't have a buff bot in daoc, you were screwed :D

Wow was a LOT more solo friendly, and i didn't need to dual box for a long time.

Eventually 4-5 60's in i made a warrior on a separate account, and used one of my 60's to rush her through dungeons and such. This was all done by alt tabbing lots on one PC. Copious use of /follow and that's pretty much it.

When the warrior hit 60, i started playing the warrior as the main char, and only alt tabbing to my druid to throw a rejuve/regrowth every so often. S'pretty much it. Made a MASSIVE difference with farming elites/rushing other guildies through dungeons.

I borrowed a friends laptop at one point, and loaded up a guildies paladin (whoops account sharing, technically i live with the guy tho so not THAT bad <_<) Tried to run someone through dire maul east, while playing a warrior on the laptop and a druid/paladin on the main PC. Gawd did i balls that up :D was alt tabbing to the desktop on the laptop and accidentally opening explorer, trying to charge and sunder things on the paladin then alt tabbing to heal except finding i was on the warrior.

We died lots :D Fun tho.

Now, i never really bothered to look into using silly things like the Nostromo, massive macro scripts, and all sorts of dubious things. However when levelling this shaman i used said warrior to rush me through instances. And around the searing gorge level (now having two pc's) i set up a few proper macros, one that auto followed the warrior when i hit it '1', one that assisted and hit stormstrike '2', '3' for Windfury/Str and 4 for target warrior cast healing wave.

And i dunno why but... It stopped being fun. I was frustrated that it simply wasn't as GOOD as having a real player there. I kept trying to do things that seriously required PLAYING of two chars, and i wasn't content with just using the shaman as a healbot, hell i had a druid for that. So i killed the warriors account and just levelled the shaman :)


Long story short, yeah dual boxxing or playing two accounts at once is slightly dubious, even unfair. But it's not difficult to do basic things like alt tab, cast heal, tab back, and it's almost bastardously impossible to do proper things like actually PLAY two chars at once as well as you play the one. Without going insane anyway and ending up alt tabbing on the wrong monitor and typing WWWW112211ASDFASAADAFA into a google search box.

Not sure what my point was really, but i thought i'd share my experiences :) make of it what you will. I play 1 account now and am happy with it. (farming two epic mounts? hah screw that)

70 Drae Shaman, 70 Blood Elf Mage... Don't ask.
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  • 75. Re: suspended for multi boxing   01/04/2007 02:24:40 PDT
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I too dual box sometimes and imo it's perfectly legal as long as any third party programs aren't used. Perhaps it was a nub GM or the reason for the suspension was something else.
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  • 76. Re: suspended for multi boxing   01/04/2007 05:31:40 PDT
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OK picture the scenario.

You have 3 brand new accounts & log into them all.

1st problem:- u now have 2 characters on constant follow mode that u cannot interact with directly UNLESS u continue to alt tab between the 3 of them.
It takes appx 2 seconds to Alt-Tab to the next running account with a clear picture, u now tell it to attack a mob. You now alt tab to the 3rd account thats another 2 seconds & in the chance that this account is ahealer, for example thats 4 seconds that a mob/s have been hitting the 1st character. Which means that u may now need to alt tab again to another account to tell it to protect/get a mob off another or now attack another mob & thus the cycle contiues, Still following....?
So unless u are running a program that IS 3rd party or a mass range of macros running from the 1st account that somehow communicate with the other 2 accounts then ur effectivly gonna have a hard time gettin anywhere.
Unless all 3 characters are hunters of course, as i have seen 3 nelfs on blood hoof of the same scenario of what i have just explained BUT they were 1 man character & 2 bots & quite learly a farmer & paid levelling service. As such multiboxing is/can be classed as against the "rules", if there is such a thing.

Its like life, just cause it CAN be done. Doesnt mean it SHUD be done.


ever heard about video cards with 2 video output and 2 monitors ?
you dont need to alt tab like crazy. you can run both just fine. and with the help of macro /assist / cast .. you can play both of accounts ok

search some gamepads that are make expecially for this kind of games.
that allow a lots of macros to be done, and mapped on buttons.
not a regular keyboard.


an example :
http://www.wowinsider.com/2006/11/30/belkin-n52-gamepad/
or you will consider those gamepads an 3'th software ? and un unfair advantage over the others who canot afford them ?
multi boxing is ok, and it will always be, as long you control the characters directly.
dont start with unfair advantage. try to control 2 characters in the same time, and see how fine are you doing.

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  • 77. Re: suspended for multi boxing   02/04/2007 04:05:04 PDT
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Hi Franchesca,

From what I can see the initial suspension was due to suspicion that you may have been using a third party program to control your characters, not for the multi-boxing itself. Since then, the matter was investigated by our Account Administration team and you should have access to your accounts again.

There is no problem with you playing multiple characters, as long as you are the owner of the accounts and are in control of them (i.e. no third party programs, and no macro-usage that is not normally possible in-game).

Have fun playing ;)

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  • 78. Re: suspended for multi boxing   02/04/2007 05:48:48 PDT
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Eilanai,

Thank you for your response and clarification on why I was suspended. I've tried to establish why this was, with no success.

I am very concerned and alarmed that I was suspended on suspision that I was using third party software for the following reasons:

1. I've multi boxed for about 18 months so I'm at a complete loss as to why the GMs now consider that I'm using third party software.

2. I received 7 notification e mails that I had been suspended, on 5 accounts. I have only received one e mail, on one account, advising that the investigations into that account have been concluded. Can I therefore take it that the investigations into the other 4 accounts are similarly concluded?

3. The single e mail that I have received does not go so far as to say that I have not used third party software, only that the investigation is concluded. Does this therefore mean that the account review team are satisfied that I have used no third party software and, just as importantly, that no action has or will be taken against me?

4. When I was suspended I only received a scripted text advising that my account would be suspended shortly for my behaviour. I asked to be given a couple of minutes to move away from the mobs, however this common courtsey was not given to me.

5. How did the GM satisfy himself that I was probably using third party software? He did not speak to me. All he did was teleport me back a few meters from the quest giver, which I ran back to. I fail to see how this action by a GM would give any indication of whether I was using third party software.

6. Overall, I'm very concerned that correct procedure was not followed before my accounts were suspended. Suspension is a very serious course of action to take against a paying customer.

7. Have I paid for the week that I was suspended?

8. Finally, and most importantly, how do I know that I wont be suspended again for the belief that I'm using third party software?
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  • 79. Re: suspended for multi boxing   02/04/2007 05:58:53 PDT
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Eilanai,


I am very concerned and alarmed that I was suspended on suspision that I was using third party software for the following reasons:





This is probably due to the current wave of bot phobia.
Someone saw your chars decided they were bots and reported you.And lets face it someone 4 boxing does look very bot like.

When the GM ported you did he /w anything and did you answer or merely keep walking back to the same spot?.

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