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  • The Venture Co
  • 20. Re: Is taming Grimtotem Spirit Guide intended   02/12/2007 03:58:18 PST
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They changed their mind then - most people are actually allowed to do that once in a while.

In this case, however, there isn't any advantage to this pet over any other, correct? It just looks very irregular and imo good compared to normal pets, meaning they should have no reason for wanting to reverse this on account of gaining an unintended advantage.

Blizzard won't change anything if it does not give an unfair advantage, as it would be quite pointless and only serve to annoy players.
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  • 21. Re: Is taming Grimtotem Spirit Guide intended   02/12/2007 05:06:44 PST
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Hi Fierce,

While this feature of the Grimtotem Spirit Guide wasn't exactly intended, it was agreed by the development team that this is a fun use of in-game mechanics, and we therefore have no plans to address this issue - it will still be possible in future for everyone who wishes to tame this NPC to do so. :)

I hope this alleviates your concerns!

Issuntril


/cheer isuntril

Great great news. Mine is level 48 and going strong. Beautiful pet. Fun way to get it. A really really cool challenge, like a quest that gives you a pet. Sometimes the not-intended features turn out to be the best ones :)

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  • Talnivarr
  • 22. Re: Is taming Grimtotem Spirit Guide intended   04/12/2007 00:20:26 PST
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The pet is bugged (at least mine is).. The run-animations are rather messed up, as it's showing a faster walking animation, as can be seen here: http://users.pandora.be/bolteh/runspeed.mov

I haven't seen anyone else complain about this, so it makes me wonder of this is only happening to me? (my other pet wolf doesn't show any of the silly animations)
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  • 23. Re: Is taming Grimtotem Spirit Guide intended   04/12/2007 00:27:41 PST
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It's not only happening to you Khatum, but this pet was not originally intended to actually be a pet so some animations were probably not applied. Perhaps Blizzard will fix this in a future patch.

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  • 24. Re: Is taming Grimtotem Spirit Guide intended   04/12/2007 03:14:11 PST
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This is penciled in to be fixed for a future content update - as I have said, it was never intended that this creature be tamable, and the developers have chosen to leave this as part of the game, as it is no doubt pretty cool. :)

What this does mean however, is that this pet does not have all of the animations that you would expect a tamable pet to have. This has been brought to the attention of our QA department, and this will be corrected Soon™

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  • Moonglade
  • 25. Re: Is taming Grimtotem Spirit Guide intended   04/12/2007 04:36:20 PST
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Hi Fierce,

While this feature of the Grimtotem Spirit Guide wasn't exactly intended, it was agreed by the development team that this is a fun use of in-game mechanics, and we therefore have no plans to address this issue - it will still be possible in future for everyone who wishes to tame this NPC to do so. :)

I hope this alleviates your concerns!

Issuntril


Im a bit sad about this part... Of course the pet is very nice and unique and i really like it as addition to the arsenal of a hunter...

... However... its a spirit wolf, spirit wolf are lorewise somewhat connected as summonable shaman companions (Thrall in WC3), i wish blizzard would do something in that direction...

I really feel the "elementals on a stick" we have no arent really shamanistic, id rather have spirit wolves...

Its good to see this pet gets added to the hunter arsenal, its a sad day for shamans though that the one thing we've asked for since day one gets handed to the Hunter class
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  • Magtheridon
  • 26. Re: Is taming Grimtotem Spirit Guide intended   04/12/2007 05:11:57 PST
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Im a bit sad about this part... Of course the pet is very nice and unique and i really like it as addition to the arsenal of a hunter...

... However... its a spirit wolf, spirit wolf are lorewise somewhat connected as summonable shaman companions (Thrall in WC3), i wish blizzard would do something in that direction...

I really feel the "elementals on a stick" we have no arent really shamanistic, id rather have spirit wolves...

Its good to see this pet gets added to the hunter arsenal, its a sad day for shamans though that the one thing we've asked for since day one gets handed to the Hunter class


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  • Dunemaul
  • 27. Re: Is taming Grimtotem Spirit Guide intended   04/12/2007 07:58:45 PST
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Hello there!
There are lots of hunters who wonder whether taming the Grimtotem Spirit Guide (spectral wolf) is intended or not.

In order to tame one of those wolves a hunter has to spend lots of honour/spirit shards to get a helm with meta socet, then spend money on a mystical skyfire diamond and drum of battle just to stand a chance taming one of those beasts.

My question is - are you going to keep the wolves that way? It will be very very disappointing if after a certain patch the wolf is no longer available, unable to be fed or its appearance has changed.


So please let us, hunters, know if it's worth going after this elusive wolf!

Thanks in advance,
Fierce


Interesting...

The entire shaman community has been crying out for these ghost wolves since before the release of tbc.... and what did they get.... crappy bugged elementals that no shaman player i know of wanted

Congratulations to you hunters i guess... just... todays a bad day to play a shaman (no wonder most of the original shaman community has rerolled)
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  • Daggerspine
  • 28. Re: Is taming Grimtotem Spirit Guide intended   05/12/2007 12:27:27 PST
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I have an lvl 28 hunter and i want this pet. Is it able to catch without the meta gem???
Or blizz should just change the existence of the wolf for 20 sec.
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  • Ghostlands
  • 29. Re: Is taming Grimtotem Spirit Guide intended   08/12/2007 13:54:29 PST
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After reading the blue posts in regards to this wolf I'm very excited about owning my very own blue ghost wolf. :) However I'm a bit concerned about the amount of effort it takes in getting one. I recently changed server so I do not have any friends who can aid me in taming this beast. Will we be seeing a time reduction in how long it'll stay alive for the benefit of those who don't have the money or friends to reduce their tame ability by half?

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  • 30. Re: Is taming Grimtotem Spirit Guide intended   10/12/2007 01:41:50 PST
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What makes this wolf so funny is the fact that everyone just can't go tame one and level it up.

I'm still walking around with my cat that i picked up during the hunter quest in Teldrasil 2½ year or so back, and have gotten quite a few remarks on that behaf, since it isn't often hunters keep their pet for so long. But recently I've seen quite a few hunters running around with a cat with the same skin, so it isn't so rare anymore.

This Wolf is special, ofc you need to level it from 30 -> 70, witch is a challence itself, but the process of just getting one is a acchievement itsenf. At first i tried doing it with a prist and just myself and my Drums of War (or is it Battle?!), but always seemed to miss 1-1½ second before the wolf died... Bringing a Shammy friend, was all that was needed and I got my pretty new ghost wolf on my second attempt after that. (that was yesterday) and now it is already level 40... but still a long way to go.

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  • Darksorrow
  • 31. Re: Is taming Grimtotem Spirit Guide intended   10/12/2007 06:21:35 PST
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could you tell me how to tame it? i've seen 1 or 2 on my server with it but they wont tell me, pleeasee? =P

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  • 32. Re: Is taming Grimtotem Spirit Guide intended   12/12/2007 00:13:42 PST
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Typical.
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  • 33. Re: Is taming Grimtotem Spirit Guide intended   10/01/2008 06:20:01 PST
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Good news with the ghost wolf.... Now can we also have some more stable slots please? Come on, its not like it is a huge buff, just makes our life easier.
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  • 34. Re: Is taming Grimtotem Spirit Guide intended   15/01/2008 00:34:17 PST
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Hi Fierce,

While this feature of the Grimtotem Spirit Guide wasn't exactly intended, it was agreed by the development team that this is a fun use of in-game mechanics, and we therefore have no plans to address this issue - it will still be possible in future for everyone who wishes to tame this NPC to do so. :)

I hope this alleviates your concerns!

Issuntril


I have a question Issuntril.

Why is it that when you announce that its okay to tame this pet, blizzard goes and removes the ability WITHOUT warning a few weeks later. It screws some people over magnificently, who have been getting the stuff together to tame the pet (or were looking forward to having an pet that looked unique in the future), and now suddendly see it removed without any warning what so ever.

Was there a breakdown in communications? Were you not alerted to this hotfix? Did you think it wasn't nessecary to alert the hunter community on this change?

I'd love to hear your ideas on this if at all possible.

P.S. I don't see this as post necromancy. This topic is where you said that it was allowed, I think this is the best topic to discuss what went wrong.

Edit: Admittingly, blaming this on Issuntril is not fair at all. It most likely isn't his fault, but the Dev's. What I would like to know however is why they devs decided to remove it without warning, after first having okayed the thing. Its like making people happy with a dead horse.

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  • Anachronos
  • 35. Re: Is taming Grimtotem Spirit Guide intended   15/01/2008 00:53:03 PST
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http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=2406040851&sid=1

This is a thread where what the above poster mentions has been posted. Though they haven't linked the source.


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Was there a breakdown in communications? Were you not alerted to this hotfix? Did you think it wasn't nessecary to alert the hunter community on this change?


Issuntril is part of the gm team and is not responsible for updates nor is he responsible for informing us of them. Though I do agree it would be nice to know when they decided to do this.
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  • 36. Re: Is taming Grimtotem Spirit Guide intended   15/01/2008 00:58:09 PST
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Issuntril is part of the gm team and is not responsible for updates nor is he responsible for informing us of them. Though I do agree it would be nice to know when they decided to do this.


That really isn't the point in my opinion. What is the point is that they say one thing (Allowing the taming of the pet) and then do the complete opposite(removing the tameability of the pet).

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  • 37. Re: Is taming Grimtotem Spirit Guide intended   15/01/2008 01:29:43 PST
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That really isn't the point in my opinion. What is the point is that they say one thing (Allowing the taming of the pet) and then do the complete opposite(removing the tameability of the pet).


Which is really irrelevant as this forum is only meant to address in-game issues, and not issues regarding lack of information from the developement or community team.

So your best avenues is either post a topic about it on the General Discussion forums or the Suggestion Forums if a topic about it does not already exist.

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  • 38. Re: Is taming Grimtotem Spirit Guide intended   15/01/2008 02:48:19 PST
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I believe the post you guys are referring to is this one by Drysc on the US forums:

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3907976716&pageNo=1&sid=1#15


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Through a hotfix we’ve recently removed the ability to tame a Grimtotem Spirit Guide. Players who have already gone through the trouble of taming the creature will be able to keep them unchanged. This hotfix only removes the possibility to tame this creature from here on.

The removal of the spirit guide has been debated within design discussions for a while now as to what impact the pet and its precedent has on the game.
The unintended nature of the taming, the undead status of the guide, appearance of the wolf in relation to the feel of the hunter class, and the complex processes of taming were all issues touched upon and discussed.

Ultimately the discussions brought us to the conclusion that this should not be a permanent addition to the pet selection available to hunters; however, those that have already tamed them should be allowed to keep them due to their efforts in obtaining one.


We do appreciate that this is inconsistent with information posted previously on the Grimtotem Spirit Guide, and we apologise for any confusion caused.

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  • Genjuros
  • 39. Re: Is taming Grimtotem Spirit Guide intended   15/01/2008 03:24:55 PST
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You should feel ashamed.

In the glory days of WoW, before TBC, before 9 million customers this would have never have happened.

Its not game breaking, it doesn't do anything to hurt rogues/locks in PvP, its JUST something that hunters like doing.

I can't remember how many times Blizzard has let me down regarding the hunter class, seriously can't.


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The removal of the spirit guide has been debated within design discussions for a while now as to what impact the pet and its precedent has on the game.
The unintended nature of the taming, the undead status of the guide, appearance of the wolf in relation to the feel of the hunter class, and the complex processes of taming were all issues touched upon and discussed.


What impact DOES it have in the game then?
The unintended nature of the taming is a product of the dedication WoW players have to the game, surpassing that of the developers (we knew that ages ago since Ommra talked about spelldamage gear affect lightning breath, we ain't got any spelldamage gear, get your act together) and it should be REWARDED AND PRAISED because ultimatelly, developers create a game but it is the players who give it life, and these players are being majorly dissappointed.

Players deserve better than that.
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