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  • 0. Fix Vanish Now!   20/02/2007 11:21:48 PST
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EVERY FREAKING TIME IN PVP!!!

Im just walking around (unstealthed), get a damn hunters mark on me..
And then i use vanish...but still the freaking pet attacks me!!!

Does it have something like a gazillion stealth detection?!?!?!

FIX IT PLEASE




[edit] Removed some of the profanity as it is completely unnecessary and non-constructive. Please mind your language in the future. Thank you.

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  • 1. Re: FIX VANISH NOW!!!   20/02/2007 11:29:04 PST
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Reality is a matter of perception.
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  • 2. Re: FIX VANISH NOW!!!   20/02/2007 11:37:47 PST
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This topic is brought up almost daily here at rogue forums, but I just coudn`t agree more. I dont get it. How it is so goddamn hard to fix?
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  • 3. Re: FIX VANISH NOW!!!   20/02/2007 11:43:03 PST
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Vanish is bugged..... I vanished at instance.... it said "Out of combat" .... I leave the room and suddenly I entered combat and the mobs suddenly started attacking me even though I was out of the normal aggro range.
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  • 4. Re: FIX VANISH NOW!!!   20/02/2007 12:16:51 PST
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was that in Shattered Halls perchance?

Just asking because: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=123522655&postId=1234716153&sid=1#0

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  • 5. Re: FIX VANISH NOW!!!   20/02/2007 16:04:03 PST
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was that in Shattered Halls perchance?

Just asking because: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=123522655&postId=1234716153&sid=1#0


Shadow Labs..... I was walking away and they suddenly started aggroing on me ..... what's the use of Vanish in PVE if they can get you anyways -_-
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  • 8. Re: FIX VANISH NOW!!!   21/02/2007 03:10:24 PST
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http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h8/kkthxbb/vanishworkskopie.jpg
had this discussion with the GM 2 or 3 days ago.

read the whispers.


Q u o t e:
What about just attaching bubble->hs to all buttons? That way you can just headbutt your keyboard and still get away.


Whats seems to be the officer, problem?
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  • 9. Re: FIX VANISH NOW!!!   21/02/2007 03:18:41 PST
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ibl :)

Oh ya, fix vanish and give cookie!

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  • 10. Re: FIX VANISH NOW!!!   21/02/2007 03:22:31 PST
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A blue post has confirmed that the vanish "bug" is working as intended. Cease your futile complaining please.

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  • 11. Re: FIX VANISH NOW!!!   21/02/2007 06:09:06 PST
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Q u o t e:
A blue post has confirmed that the vanish "bug" is working as intended. Cease your futile complaining please.


Actually Vanish is working as intended. What many see as the Vanish bug is in fact a latency issue between your computer(client), the realm(server) and the computers(clients) of other players.

Here is an example of what can sometimes happen, which leads to the perception of Vanish being bugged: If an enemy rogue attacks you using Eviscerate, a command is sent to the realm telling it that Eviscerate is being used by that enemy Rogue. If you then use Vanish right after the enemy rogue uses Eviscerate, the realm is in the process of acknowledging his Eviscerate command while your Vanish command is still being sent to the realm. The acknowledgement of the enemy rogue's Eviscerate command is then being sent to your computer, and at the same time the realm is registering that you used the Vanish command. The result of this is that your client can take you out of stealth because you were hit by damage, even though you used vanish, because there is latency somewhere between you, the realm and the enemy player.

Such latency issues cannot be corrected with a simple patch or hotfix due to the very nature of how data is being sent and received with the current Internet infrastructure, however the developers are aware of this issue and they will come up with a proper solution if/when one is found, or if one presents itself.

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  • 12. Re: FIX VANISH NOW!!!   21/02/2007 06:12:34 PST
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a logical explanation indeed...but what about a pet chasing you long after you vanished, and technically got out of combat?
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  • 13. Re: Fix Vanish Now!   21/02/2007 06:14:12 PST
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Q u o t e:
EVERY FREAKING TIME IN PVP!!!

Im just walking around (unstealthed), get a damn hunters mark on me..
And then i use vanish...but still the freaking pet attacks me!!!

Does it have something like a gazillion stealth detection?!?!?!



will the hunters mark go away when you vanish? if it doesn't, then no wonder the pet goes after you..

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  • 14. Re: FIX VANISH NOW!!!   21/02/2007 06:15:28 PST
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Actually Vanish is working as intended. What many see as the Vanish bug is in fact a latency issue between your computer(client), the realm(server) and the computers(clients) of other players.

Here is an example of what can sometimes happen, which leads to the perception of Vanish being bugged: If an enemy rogue attacks you using Eviscerate, a command is sent to the realm telling it that Eviscerate is being used by that enemy Rogue. If you then use Vanish right after the enemy rogue uses Eviscerate, the realm is in the process of acknowledging his Eviscerate command while your Vanish command is still being sent to the realm. The acknowledgement of the enemy rogue's Eviscerate command is then being sent to your computer, and at the same time the realm is registering that you used the Vanish command. The result of this is that your client can take you out of stealth because you were hit by damage, even though you used vanish, because there is latency somewhere between you, the realm and the enemy player.

Such latency issues cannot be corrected with a simple patch or hotfix due to the very nature of how data is being sent and received with the current Internet infrastructure, however the developers are aware of this issue and they will come up with a proper solution if/when one is found, or if one presents itself.



So...what's the reason this started happening A LOT more after the patch where there were major changes to targeting?
And what about tickets about pets following after vanish,not stealth,VANISH,with "vanish is not supposed to reset pet aggro,working as intended"?
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  • 15. Re: FIX VANISH NOW!!!   21/02/2007 06:16:41 PST
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Actully if u add a few sec immunity in vanish that u cant loose stealth then its would be "Fixed" as every rogue wants it to be.

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  • 16. Re: Fix Vanish Now!   21/02/2007 06:18:07 PST
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Sometimes im seen by other people when I vanish, though that shouldnt happen. Just happened today last time, and, well I died fast after that :P
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  • 17. Re: FIX VANISH NOW!!!   21/02/2007 06:20:20 PST
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Actually Vanish is working as intended. What many see as the Vanish bug is in fact a latency issue between your computer(client), the realm(server) and the computers(clients) of other players.

Here is an example of what can sometimes happen, which leads to the perception of Vanish being bugged: If an enemy rogue attacks you using Eviscerate, a command is sent to the realm telling it that Eviscerate is being used by that enemy Rogue. If you then use Vanish right after the enemy rogue uses Eviscerate, the realm is in the process of acknowledging his Eviscerate command while your Vanish command is still being sent to the realm. The acknowledgement of the enemy rogue's Eviscerate command is then being sent to your computer, and at the same time the realm is registering that you used the Vanish command. The result of this is that your client can take you out of stealth because you were hit by damage, even though you used vanish, because there is latency somewhere between you, the realm and the enemy player.

Such latency issues cannot be corrected with a simple patch or hotfix due to the very nature of how data is being sent and received with the current Internet infrastructure, however the developers are aware of this issue and they will come up with a proper solution if/when one is found, or if one presents itself.



Your post is confusing me.

You say vanish is working as intended YET you acknowledge there is a latency problem, which causes issues with the vanish skill. Therefore i have to conclude that vanish is a bugged skill and is actually not 100% working as intended.
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  • 19. Re: FIX VANISH NOW!!!   21/02/2007 06:23:47 PST
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Actually Vanish is working as intended. What many see as the Vanish bug is in fact a latency issue between your computer(client), the realm(server) and the computers(clients) of other players.

Here is an example of what can sometimes happen, which leads to the perception of Vanish being bugged: If an enemy rogue attacks you using Eviscerate, a command is sent to the realm telling it that Eviscerate is being used by that enemy Rogue. If you then use Vanish right after the enemy rogue uses Eviscerate, the realm is in the process of acknowledging his Eviscerate command while your Vanish command is still being sent to the realm. The acknowledgement of the enemy rogue's Eviscerate command is then being sent to your computer, and at the same time the realm is registering that you used the Vanish command. The result of this is that your client can take you out of stealth because you were hit by damage, even though you used vanish, because there is latency somewhere between you, the realm and the enemy player.

Such latency issues cannot be corrected with a simple patch or hotfix due to the very nature of how data is being sent and received with the current Internet infrastructure, however the developers are aware of this issue and they will come up with a proper solution if/when one is found, or if one presents itself.



Thanks for the explanation. I'm confused however that the Feign Death ability does in fact stop you using anything on the hunter as soon as the hunter uses it, but the Vanish ability is broken and doesn't.
Also Vanish used to work perfectly fine, so I don't see how this could be the reason.

Again, thanks for the reply.
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