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  • 20. Re: The Complete Priest FAQ   09/02/2007 01:23:44 PST
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Ok, some errors sorted out, thanks for pointing them up.

Couple of things

If someone does some work on the 5 second rule and channeling, let me know the outcomes and I'll make any alteractions.

Fusion, bolded a paragraph JUST for you :)

All headings etc are now bolded or underlined I simply ran out of time yesterday sorry!

if you see any ERRORS please let me know and I will alter them, meh missed VT in the spell list, I'll go back and fix that in a few minutes.

And if you want this stickied, press the report button and ask for it to be :D

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  • 21. Re: The Complete Priest FAQ   09/02/2007 01:47:56 PST
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WoW (yes) very good guide :) I think I'll award you with this new and shiny sticky!

That Crezax, so hot right now!
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  • 22. Re: The Complete Priest FAQ   09/02/2007 01:52:10 PST
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Thanks Crezax :)

[ Post edited by Kalistra ]


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  • 23. Re: The Complete Priest FAQ   09/02/2007 07:05:40 PST
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Thanks Crezak :)
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  • 24. Re: The Complete Priest FAQ   09/02/2007 07:15:06 PST
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Thanks Fusion for all your positive feedback! Perhaps you should learn to read some of my opening comments ^^


NP mate, Any time! Perhaps, after enough, you might actually learn to spec ^^

/assmode off

As i said when i posted, matters of oppinion, just a heads up to the poor "beginners" who might end up reading the post and indeed a feedback to you, did not meen to offend or anything, just suggestions you or anyone looking for a build from this post might want to consider looking in to.

Maybe little too straight forward way of saying it, bad habbit of mine to be honest. (><)

Since there is also another brilliant sticky post about specs, who ever needs help regarding it should now be able to just read trough these and have a way to go.

http://ctprofiles.net/3750583
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  • 25. Re: The Complete Priest FAQ   09/02/2007 10:52:31 PST
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When I started leveling my priest, I had a wish. A wish that a experienced and clever player would make a guide, that could help me learn to be a good priest. There wasnt a guide like that a couple of months ago...

But now there is! I´m level 50 now, but it doesn´t matter. This guide (or FAQ as the OP calls it) is usefull even at my level:)!

So I just want to thank the author (cant remember her name and since I´m writing this reply I cant check either...) for a very good FAQ (or guide as I see it)!!! And not to much whining in the thread either... I sign that it´s good? I think so

Best regards,

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  • 26. Re: The Complete Priest FAQ   10/02/2007 07:13:32 PST
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Cerb thats interesting, when I'm using it now, if a mob wasnt in LoS when I use it, it NEVER appears, even is a stealthed rogue is saying theres a mob there. (yes Im using rank2)

I'll do some more testing on this later.


Yeah I used it in ST no longer then 2 days ago and we had to wait a bit at the entrance and as a bored priest I like to play around with the MV. From the start there I managed to see through the eyes of mobs on the second floor ^^. I guess as long as it's within 50000 yards everyhting goes :)
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  • 27. Re: The Complete Priest FAQ   10/02/2007 08:03:38 PST
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Wierdly, was about to post, no - the I can bounce it, but after a certain distance the mobs stop 'spawning'.. wonder if its an Outlands only change?

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  • 28. Re: The Complete Priest FAQ   11/02/2007 06:17:59 PST
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It is possible to Mind Soothe multiple targets. At least I can :)

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  • 29. Re: The Complete Priest FAQ   11/02/2007 14:26:07 PST
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Oppsie, ill go change it :)

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  • 30. Re: The Complete Priest FAQ   13/02/2007 05:29:37 PST
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Mod section updated.

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  • 31. Re: The Complete Priest FAQ   13/02/2007 07:56:39 PST
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Q u o t e:
Part One: The Spells

A good repository of information has to be http://www.thottbot.com/?c=Priest for a complete Priest spell list.

Spells everyone can have

Lesser Heal (LH) – your first basic direct heal. You receive this spell at levels 1, 4 and 10. The all take 1.5 seconds to cast, and have a range of 40 yards. Lesser heals casting time increases however, with the rank of spell you have.

Power Word Fortitude (Fort) – This is one of the staple buffs a priest uses, and increases characters stamina, you can use it on yourself and others. You receive this spell at levels 1, 12, 24, 36, 48, 60 & 70. These spells last 30 minutes. Later on you can find three books, which train you in Prayer of Fortitude ranks 1,2 & 3 (PoF), these are learnable at levels 48, 60 & 70, give the same stamina as the single target Fort spell, but effect the entire team and lasts for 1 hour. The PoF spells require a reagent that can be bought for any reagent vendor.

Shadow Word: Pain (SWP) – Is one of the priests damaging spells. This spell is a instant cast shadow DoT (damage over time) that you can apply to any mob within 30 yards. This means you can have SWP running on multiple mobs at the same time, thus doing damage, whilst still being able to heal. You can learn this spell at levels 4, 10, 18, 26, 34, 42, 50, 58, 65 & 70.

Power Word: Shield (PWS) – This is an instant cast, 40 yard, defensive spell that can be used on yourself, a party member or a raid member. It cannot be cast on someone you are not grouped with. This spell generates a ‘protective shield’ around the recipient, which has the ability to absorb damage. Spells cannot be interrupted due to damage whilst this spell holds, however crowd control abilities (e.g. silence & fear) will still break spell casting. When PWS lands on someone, they will receive a 15 second debuff called weaken soul, that prevents another PWS being cast on that person whilst the debuff is running. You can learn this spell at levels 6, 12, 18, 24, 30, 36, 42, 48, 54, 60, 65 and 70. There is some worry in the priest community that this spell does not scale very well, especially in PvP vs burst damage.

Smite – This is one of the main attacks a non-shadow priest will use. It is a 2.5 second cast, 30 yard, direct damage spell, doing holy damage. You can learn this spell at levels 6, 14, 22, 30, 38, 46, 54, 61 and 69.

Fade – A very important spell to priests, but takes some time to master when to use it. An instant cast spell that reduces your ‘hate’ on mobs, allowing the aggro to be shifted to another character easier. At the end of the duration ALL threat that was lost through fade will be regained, but hopefully another player will then be above you on the hate list (usually the tank). It lasts for 10 seconds and has a 30 second cooldown. You can learn this spell at levels 8, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 & 66.

Renew – An instant cast HoT (Heal over time) with a 40 yard range. A HoT allows the recipient to gain life over the duration of the spell (every 3 seconds or a tick as its known as, they will gain life) allowing you to heal whilst doing other things (like direct healing). Renews stack, this means multiple priests can have renew running on the same character. Druids are the undisputed masters of HoTs but renew is a strong tool in the priests collection. You can learn this spell at levels 8, 14, 20, 26, 32, 38, 44, 50, 56, 60, 65 & 70.

Mind Blast (MB) – A very powerful direct damage, 1.5 sec cast, 30 yards range, spell of the shadow school. Used to generate additional hate on a mob it hit, but that seems to have been removed. You can learn this spell at levels 10, 16, 22, 28, 34, 40, 46, 52, 58, 63 & 69.

Resurrection (Res) – A character is dead, oh no! Well these things happen, and as long as it isn’t you, casting Res on them brings them back to life This CANNOT be cast during combat! You can learn this spell at levels 10, 22, 34, 46, 58 and 68, each one bringing the person back to life with more health and mana. (Sidenote: druids have a Res they can cast during combat, but it is on a 30 min cooldown, shamans have an ability to self-res.)

Inner Fire (InnF) – A defensive self buff that increases your armour rating for 10 minutes or 20 melee or ranged attacks against you. Yes it’s a pain to keep casting it, but its benefit is obvious, you take less damage! You can learn this spell at levels 12, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 & 69.

Cure Disease – Cures one disease on the target you cast it on within 30 yards instantly. You can learn this at level 14.

Abolish Disease – Cures one disease on the target you cast it on within 30 yards instantly, and then every 5 seconds after (for 20 seconds) removes another disease. You can learn this at level 32.

Psychic Scream – Is a PBAoE (personal based area of effect – 8 yards radius) instant spell that sends mobs running from you in fear. The first level makes two mobs run, the top level makes five run. Causing damage to a feared mob can break the fear. You can learn this spell at levels 14, 28, 42, 56 & 60.

Heal (H) – This is the second direct heal you receive as a priest, much slower casting time of three seconds (40 yard range), but the mana it costs to cast, for the amount it heals, it is much more mana efficient. You can learn this spell at levels 16, 22, 28 & 34.

Dispel Magic – This spell can be used to remove a magic effect or either a friendly or aggressive target. It is instant cast with a range of 30 yards. You can learn this at level 18 & 36.

Flash Heal (FH) – This spell is the direct upgrade of Lesser Heal. Takes 1.5 seconds to cast and has a range of 40 yards. Not a particularly mana efficient way of healing, but if you need a heal in a hurry, PWS+FH is where you are at. You can learn this spell at levels 20, 26, 32, 38, 44, 50, 56, 61 & 67.

Holy Fire – A second direct damage holy spell, which also leaves a small DoT on the target. Takes 3.5 seconds to cast and a range of 30 yards. You can learn this spell at levels 20, 24, 30, 36, 42, 48, 54, 60 and 66.

Mind Soothe – An interesting spell that is very situational. If you are trying to sneak past a mob and NOT start a fight with it, you can cast mind Soothe on it, which drastically decreases its aggro radius, assuming getting within 40 yards doesn’t aggro the mob. It lasts 15 seconds. You can learn this spell at levels 20, 36, 52 and 67.

Shackle Undead (SUd) – This is the priests way of stopping those horrible undead from attacking you! (Please note PLAYER undead do NOT class as undead). This spell takes 1.5 seconds to cast and has a range of 30 yards, enveloping the undead in chains. ANY damage done to a shackled mob will break the shackle and the undead WILL attack the priest as it causes high threat. You can only have one mob shackled at a time. You can learn this spell at levels 20, 40 and 60.

Mind Vision (MV) – Target mob, look round corner, causes NO threat. Used to be much better as with MV2 you could bounce from mob to mob to see patrols, they nerfed it. You can learn this spell at levels 22 and 44.

Mana Burn – A direct damage spell that destroys some of your targets mana, and damages them in the process. It takes 3 seconds to cast and has a 30 yard range. You can learn this spell at levels 24, 32, 40, 48, 56, 63 and 70.

Mind Control (MC) – A great spell, but one that can go HORRIBLY wrong. You take control of your non-friendly target using some of their abilities, be it in PvE or PvP. MC however can break early and produces MASSIVE amounts of hate, also the pet bar you should have can sometimes be missing, making the mob pretty useless. Whilst you are MCing, any other action you perform WILL break the MC. It takes 3 seconds to cast with a 20 yard range. You can learn this at levels 30, 44 and 58.

Prayer of Healing (PoH) – Your entire team is taking damage do you a) panic, run round like a headless chicken and wipe or b) cast PoH which heals your entire team? Some priests choose option a, personally I’d cast PoH. A 30 yard radius, 3 second cast means you have to time it wisely, but a very powerful spell used in the right circumstances. You can learn this spell at levels 30, 40, 50, 60 & 68.

Shadow Protection – Increases the Shadow Resistance of you target for 10 minutes, can be learnt at levels 30, 42, 56 & 68.

Prayer of Shadow Protection – Casts Shadow Protection on an entire group, lasting 20 minutes (uses a reagent), can be learnt at levels 56 and 70 from books.

Levitate – Your falling, oh wait, this instant cast spell makes you float nicely to the ground instead... as long as you remembered to farm the right feathers that is. You can learn this spell at level 34.

Greater Heal (GH) – A direct upgrade to Heal, this slow and steady direct heal is the mainstay of many priests. You can learn this spell at levels 40, 46, 52, 58, 60, 63 & 68.

Shadow Word: Death (SWD) – A direct instant cast, 30 yard, shadow damage spell, however if it does not kill the target the priest takes the same damage as the target (hint: Prayer of Mending). You can learn this spell at levels 62 and 70.

Binding Heal (BH) – A very situational heal, though can have its uses. It heals both your target AND yourself at the same time (range 40 yards, 1.5 seconds cast). Generates quite a bit of hate by mobs around you, and is mana expensive. You can learn this spell at level 64.

Shadowfiend – A pet for priests. Instantly casts on your target (up to 30 yards away), lasts 15 seconds. When it hits the target for shadow damage, you gain mana (scales with +damage and +shadow gear). Some priests are complaining that it hits crowd controlled mobs, my answer, don’t cast it when there crowd controll
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  • 32. Re: The Complete Priest FAQ   13/02/2007 08:02:30 PST
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Nice work Kal :)

Another addon that appears to be updated is Oz-Raid. I used it before 2.0 and in the 40 mans it kept my screen nice and clear while still being able to see everyone.

Did a quick google on it and they have got a new one out and working on improvements all the time too.

The only down side to it is that it does not display pet bars atm.

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  • 33. Re: The Complete Priest FAQ   13/02/2007 08:09:01 PST
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Gimme a few mins, I'll do some quick research on it (for a descrip) and add it

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  • 34. Re: The Complete Priest FAQ   13/02/2007 08:12:59 PST
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Done, and thanks for the compliment :)

Any idea why someone has quoted the spell list? :p

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  • 35. Re: The Complete Priest FAQ   13/02/2007 08:25:52 PST
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Done, and thanks for the compliment :)

Any idea why someone has quoted the spell list? :p


Might have a comment but if the post is too long the forums just put up the part it can instead of returning an error stating the post is too big.

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  • 36. Re: The Complete Priest FAQ   15/02/2007 01:56:29 PST
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A nice guide, if you're looking to add more, consider the topic of Spell Co-effecients as that seems to be lacking from the quick overview I did :)


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  • 37. Re: The Complete Priest FAQ   15/02/2007 03:02:24 PST
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Your right, its lack, probably cause Im not 100% up on them myself and dont want to misinform people, if anyone wants to write a quick guide I'll happily copy and paste it and give credit :)

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  • 38. Re: The Complete Priest FAQ   16/02/2007 08:41:07 PST
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Great guide!
My main is actually a druid and im going for feral, but i started a priest character as well and, though i didnt expect it, was having as much fun healing and aiding party members (since i seem to be one of the only newb priests these days im constantly getting invites to parties, which i gladly accept and hope i do a good job ) as i am as a bear... i dont really enjoy healing as a druid cause i have to shift forms a lot, but as a priest i love supporting. Your guide did give me an idea about what to expect and made the discipline talent tree a bit clearer to me.
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  • 39. Re: The Complete Priest FAQ   17/02/2007 16:12:44 PST
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Glad its been of help, and welcome to the priest community

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