Hi all,

I've noticed a number of times in the last few weeks that if a WG ends in a draw, the horde wins - even though wowwiki states that if it is a draw, whoever captured the first flag wins.

I've reported this twice previously, and each time a GM said they were aware of it. It is still not fixed, and yesterday when I reported it, a GM replied and said they have tested it and it is working.

Anyone know?

It was changed, so whoever caps the last flag at a draw wins.

i noticed it yesterday , our side was strugling to get the alliance flag and had a hard time defending ours but we where doing well enough for 11 minutes eventhough we got outplayed ( yup have to admit it we did )

but after 11 minutes alliance got the flag and scored , after that we managed to tie the score but where not able to grab a second flag.
the game ended and we expexted to see alliance wins on our screens........ not so , it turned out we had "won".

might be a bug but i like it ^_^

( was playing on my druid in the 70/79 bracket btw )

i remember a guy in my guild saying in /g yesterday

"WTF 2-1 horde winning wsg and alliance win ?!?! :S:S::S WTF!"

and apparantly now who ever captures the last flag wins, dosnt matter what the score is.

it might be a bug and whatnot but this is just stupid .

Thanks for the official reply. Could you make this information public knowledge to reduce the amount of people talking about it in the battlegrounds all the time.

It was in the patch notes, as far as i can remember: /

3.2.0 Patch notes:
Warsong Gulch
There is a now a 20-minute timer on this Battleground. After that time, the team with the most flag captures wins. If this would result in a tie, the team that captured the first flag wins. If neither side has captured a flag, then the game ends in a tie.

3.2.2 patch notes:
Nothing new.

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Q u o t e:

This is correct. In the event of a draw, it is the team that capped a flag last that gets the victory.

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And what about putting such important info to patch notes or some fix notes or where? Not just maybe somewhere in 10th page in some subforum?

Thanks

It was in the patch notes, because i knew. Just read more.

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This is correct. In the event of a draw, it is the team that capped a flag last that gets the victory.

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So basically the worse team wins.This is not logical.

WSG was my favorite battleground before blizz implemented the timer.Since the timer I just dont like it because it is just a shadow of the cool BG what it was before.I understand that the devs made these decisions because of the new BG leveling(which is a good thing) but the XP gain from WSG is just simply pathetic anyway.I hope that you will restore this BG to its old glory at some point in the future(at least let us play the old version of WSG when it will be the rated battleground of the week).

Oh and please tell the devs that we dont want more vehicle BGs because they are just craptastic,they should experiment with vehicles in arenas so the arena fans wont miss this wonderful feature(lol ok,this was a bit evil i admit).Its cool that you got the technology really,but we dont want more vehicles thanks.

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So basically the worse team wins.This is not logical.

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It's awarding the latest "active" team.

In any case I think a draw is a draw. It should be just like in AB. Also things need to change in SOTA because if you lose the first round as attacker...what's the point playing the second?? The outcome for you won't change.

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It's awarding the latest "active" team.

In any case I think a draw is a draw. It should be just like in AB.

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Yup a draw is a draw,nobody should win when the score is 1-1 or 2-2 especially not the team with the last cap.The whole timer thing in WSG is just flawed and wrong from basically every aspect.

http://www.wow.com/2009/09/22/patch-3-2-2-lives-it-lives/

I cant find anything about this change in the patch notes, and I normally read them quite carefully. Certainly its not under the 'battlegrounds' header, thats just about dailies at low levels.
I do think Blizzard should have made it a bit more visible.

I think its a really good change at any rate; because it keeps things interesting right to the end, in the vast majority of matches. I dont see how the team that captured last is 'worse'...if anything I would say the opposite is true.

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Q u o t e:

This is correct. In the event of a draw, it is the team that capped a flag last that gets the victory.

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Kinda sucks when its 2-2 your just about to cap and the game ends,
PLEASE make wsg 40mins

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Q u o t e:

This is correct. In the event of a draw, it is the team that capped a flag last that gets the victory.

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Where is the logic in that?

Team A caps the flag first, meaning they are leading the match.

Team B caps the flag, meaning the game is now a draw.

Team B wins? Why? Team A capped first, meaning they played better. Doesn't make any sense.

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I dont see how the team that captured last is 'worse'...if anything I would say the opposite is true.

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Usually the team with better teamwork gets the first flag capture because they know how to stay together,they know how to def the flag carrier and the 500 resi rogues(and clothies) let the real flag carriers pick up the flag.Both teams meet on the midfield and the better team destroys the weaker while their flag carrier runs into safety.

Later its all about ninjaing flags when both teams are spread out and druid flag carriers usually show up to late on the map to hunt them down effectively.A draw is a draw,the game should not end with equal score.The timer made WSG crap,this latest last capture wins change just adds more salt to the wound.

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Q u o t e:
It was changed, so whoever caps the last flag at a draw wins.

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And it's an excellent change. Reduces the "ok we have a flag, now turtle for 20 minutes and we win" kind of stupid crap.

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And it's an excellent change. Reduces the "ok we have a flag, now turtle for 20 minutes and we win" kind of stupid crap.

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I disagree.

Actually it means that the team that's playing catch up all match but somehow pulls back a draw at the last sec gets rewarded for being second best most of the match.

Having both won and lost to this I've seen it from both sides, and whilst winning from a draw is nice, it's nonsensical just because you managed to scrape a draw - in football if it's a draw they don't award the second team to score the game, nor do they do the same in any other game, so why here?

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And it's an excellent change. Reduces the "ok we have a flag, now turtle for 20 minutes and we win" kind of stupid crap.

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This.

It's to stop turtling to and to encourage the bg to actually keep capping flags, if they can cap the first then they can cap the other 2.