Races: General

Will of the Forsaken now shares a 45-second cooldown with similar effects, including the Medallion of the Horde, Titan-Forged runes, Insignia of the Horde, etc.

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Ridiculous.

WHY are you making changes like this???
Its a perfectly fine ability that has been in the game for over 4 years and now you want to change it???

If it's so imbalanced, buff the other racials you %*#!ing twats.

JESUS CHRIST

I dont usually post on forums but this is ridiculous.

the more i think of this the more i realise this is such a MASSIVE nerf to undead rogues..

For example in arena... open on priest you get feared...you WOTF back onto the priest.
Then you get Hammer of justiced by a ret, now you can't trinket.

thats a kick in the teeth.

Same for getting opened on by other rogues. Basically as soon as wotf is used, its nuke rogue time since no trinket.
this is especcially fail in 2v2.

total bollox

With race change here, people will FOTM roll Undead.

It's a good reason to pick Undead only for the looks.

This ability was a bit to good to be true against priest and warlocks

I have been playing a blood elf rogue for like 2 years now, so it wont hit me as hard as rogues who are still used to having 2 fear breaks right after each other.

Still a stupid nerf though.

Don't see why changing the Undead racial to be limited the same as the Human racial is a big issue.

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Don't see why changing the Undead racial to be limited the same as the Human racial is a big issue.

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To be honest, if they're gonna listen to everyone %@!%# and moan about everything, they may aswell give everyone the same racials and call them something else.

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To be honest, if they're gonna listen to everyone %@!%# and moan about everything, they may aswell give everyone the same racials and call them something else.

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Everyone having the human racial wouldn't be a bad idea. Arena players only really have 1 trinket they can change, the other must always be a pvp trinket of some form.

Perhaps allowing everyone 2 different trinkets in arena may make matches slightly more interesting and all fairer.

I think that making racials weaker is a step in the right direction, but they should make ALL racials weaker, not just a specific one.

Human rogues get the opening 90% of the time, because of their racial, and then they can kill us in the cheap shot thanks to the 2nd trinket slot, which gives them a 15-20% dps increase in the short term. That's pretty much imbalanced, isn't it? I mean... they don't even need the extra damage to beat us if they get the opening... and yet they get guarranteed to win in every possible way...


To the OP: I guess you will have to use your trinket first and save wotf for later, since not having a trinket means death. We'll have to run around feared like non-UDs do atm :P It ain't so bad, but they need to compensate for the nerf imo. Perhaps make Cannibalize usuable on living opponents : >.. and make it damage them... : o

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Don't see why changing the Undead racial to be limited the same as the Human racial is a big issue.

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Why?

Imo.. blizzard should remove the racial abilitys from arena... then arena would be balanced..

This "nerf" is bad for arena no ?

But for the rest bah doesnt matter, and humans are the next i can feel it.

Everyone go Nightelf, so racial will be nerfed as well x)

Haha, I for one welcome this change, (although it is obviously yet another money grabbing move by Blizzard). I can't wait to drink the tears of the UD rogues I come across ig. :))

Drama queens.

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Drama queens.

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lol we have to :)

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To the OP: I guess you will have to use your trinket first and save wotf for later, since not having a trinket means death. We'll have to run around feared like non-UDs do atm :P It ain't so bad, but they need to compensate for the nerf imo. Perhaps make Cannibalize usuable on living opponents : >.. and make it damage them... : o

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Cannibalize usuable on living opponents.. I LIKE! where this is going!

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Its a perfectly fine ability that has been in the game for over 4 years and now you want to change it???

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Are you trying to imply that Will of the Forsaken have been unchanged for 4 years...? If you are, then you are very wrong.

This isn't the first time Will of the Forsaken have been changed over the years.
First time was back in Vanilla and was nerfed from 20 seconds duration to 5 seconds. Which was quite obvious really, 20 seconds of Will of the Forsaken was hugely overpowered.
The second time, I believe, was at the begining of Wrath, or late TBC, where it was changed from having that 5 seconds duration into just breaking the fear.