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Stealing this thread for a question, but wth is going on with the bnet management? If for like some "extremely odd" reason I'd like to change my contact information or even look at it, is that even possible (other than e-mail and passwd) ? Every time I click that "Editing your contact information" link from the bottom of the screen, I get a new popup tab which contains just following plain text (just black text on white background, no links or anything:

"By logging in to your Battle.net Account you can change this information at any time after account creation if you wish by updating your profile in Battle.net account management.
Please go here to log into your Battle.net account or create one. false 35417 0 Editing your contact information Editing your contact information 1 35417

working as intended or what the %#! am I missing here?
Oh, and I am logged in, cookies accepted and noscript isn't blocking anything.
Doesn't really make me too eager to merge anything if it's working that badly.

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Make sure it's actually this link you're trying to use: https://eu.battle.net/account/management/address-book.xml
Works fine here.

Alternatively, try a different browser.

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As for security, the same security measures apply for Battle.net than those that already apply for WoW accounts. The system is no less robust than those already in place.

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Your Email-Address is now transfered as plaintext over the net on the login procedure. That means someone logging the traffic has now a way to contact you via email, thus sending potential WoW players fake emails with doubtful content. Not to mention community websites with forums where you have no control over it's security can now expose a part of your WoW login.

You already violating basic security dogmas with your case insensitive password checking. You are fooling people if you tell them it's no less robust.

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Your Email-Address is now transfered as plaintext over the net on the login procedure. That means someone logging the traffic has now a way to contact you via email, thus sending potential WoW players fake emails with doubtful content. Not to mention community websites with forums where you have no control over it's security can now expose a part of your WoW login.

You already violating basic security dogmas with your case insensitive password checking. You are fooling people if you tell them it's no less robust.

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Case sensitivity is basically nullified by the fact that password strength is enforced by Blizzard, i don't see what purpose you have for case sensitivity, the password can't be reliably bruteforced, so either you know the password, or you don't, the probability that your password is compromised by either randomly guessing or bruteforce is probably low enough to the point that it doesn't matter.

Normal SMTP is transferred unencrypted as well, though i do agree that there's no reason not to encrypt it.

i merged my own account but have to think about what to do with my daughters account.

I don't want 2 battlenet accounts on my name, but I also don't want her to know my password,
3 weeks to think about a solution......

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i merged my own account but have to think about what to do with my daughters account.

I don't want 2 battlenet accounts on my name, but I also don't want her to know my password,
3 weeks to think about a solution......

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Q: My family plays World of Warcraft together. Should we create a single Battle.net account for all of our World of Warcraft accounts?
A: No. Sharing access to a World of Warcraft account, other than by a parent or guardian with a single minor, is a violation of World of Warcraft’s Terms of Use. You should create a separate Battle.net account for each family member’s World of Warcraft account. In addition, future Battle.net features will make it beneficial for players to have the Battle.net account they use associated with their own online identity. Creating separate accounts for you and your family ensures you will be able to take advantage of these features when they are introduced later on.

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Yeeeaah....coz if you got hacked, they'd only bother with your WoW accounts, not everything else you also use. Do you not think that if you got hacked/keylogged/whatever, they'd still access all your accounts anyway? Or did that thought pass you by while you QQ'd over change?

/facepalm

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^^ Blizz Fanboy fools like this annoy me, i have no drama with change, however i do have drama's with change when it happens to be forcing me into something I myself am not over confident in. At present i have 4 account's all with separate usernames and passwords, so if someone manages to get access to one, they have done exactly that, accessed one and only one, on the new system with merged accounts they will have got into all 4 accounts via the one password, that I am not overly happy with. (and yes before some fanboy brings it up, yes there is authenticators, I already pay my monthly fee and feel no need to fork out more for something which at present I dont feel I need.)

My second drama with this is yes I will merge as we all have to, and indeed I was going to do so 2 days ago, then I looked at Blizz tech support forums and low and behold loads of people with problems with logging in etc since merging, its not a good advertisement for this change is it!

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It's called keylogging and stupidity because people cannot refrain from clicking nakedelf.exe.

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Not true, my computer got infected without me clicking on some sexleg thing or entering my info on a spoofed page. I'm assuming it was something hidden in one of the ads on the site where I downloaded my addons.
Oh well, I have an authenticator these days, so I'm not worried.

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^^ idiots like this annoy me, i have no drama with change, however i do have drama's with change when it happens to be forcing me into something I myself am not over confident in. At present i have 4 account's all with separate usernames and passwords, so if someone manages to get access to one, they have done exactly that, accessed one and only one, on the new system with merged accounts they will have got into all 4 accounts via the one password, that I am not overly happy with. (and yes before some fanboy brings it up, yes there is authenticators, I already pay my monthly fee and feel no need to fork out more for something which at present I dont feel I need.)

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If you feel that you security is adequate, then you have nothing to worry about. But to explain what i believe to be the point, accounts are compromised because people willingly gave away their account information, or because they were keylogged.

The idea is to gain as much from a compromise as possible, this is usually why compromise also happens on the weekends, as well why they merge your account with Battle.net, they want to ensure that they atleast have the account in their possesion for as long as possible.

So the fact is that a keylogger may have been on your system for several days, maybe even weeks before it is actually used, and more than likely you've accessed all of your accounts in that period, the argument does swing both ways, but the point here is that security have lacked, without it none of it would've happened, whether it was 1, 2, 3 or 4 accounts that were hacked.

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My second drama with this is yes I will merge as we all have to, and indeed I was going to do so 2 days ago, then I looked at Blizz tech support forums and low and behold loads of people with problems with logging in etc since merging, its not a good advertisement for this change is it!

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The unhappy crowd is usually the loudest :)

There are a few issues here:

1. The servers were overloaded.
2. Users did not setup their hardware/software properly, Battle.net uses a new port (TCP 1119) so that is the cause of many connection issues.
3. Users used a "broken" client or an american one, the new system uses more than the realmlist directive, and if not all values are correct it'll think you need to connect to the american realms, and since you have no account there your realmlist will be empty.

You should consider merging as soon as you are able though, likely people will be holding out until the very last second, and we'll have the same issues, you can change whether or not you'll be part of that problem though :)

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There's also an interesting "flaw" in the design of this bloody circus :

I'm playing WoW with my two sons, so bought three(3) boxes and use three(3) separate accounts.

In the past (the classic way), I registered those three separate accounts using ONE email address (the one we use for our family - sounds logical, doesn't it).

Interesting fact now is, that I need to create three(!!) Battle.net accounts and the design is such that I now ALSO NEED THREE(!!) email accounts ..

If you put everything under ONE email address, you can play only ONE client at a time ..


Thank you Blizzard :(

PS
I would love to see a "blue" commenting on this ..

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Fail!!
I've two accounts and i can play both, so your wrong there

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^^ Blizz Fanboy fools like this annoy me, i have no drama with change, however i do have drama's with change when it happens to be forcing me into something I myself am not over confident in. At present i have 4 account's all with separate usernames and passwords, so if someone manages to get access to one, they have done exactly that, accessed one and only one, on the new system with merged accounts they will have got into all 4 accounts via the one password, that I am not overly happy with. (and yes before some fanboy brings it up, yes there is authenticators, I already pay my monthly fee and feel no need to fork out more for something which at present I dont feel I need.)

My second drama with this is yes I will merge as we all have to, and indeed I was going to do so 2 days ago, then I looked at Blizz tech support forums and low and behold loads of people with problems with logging in etc since merging, its not a good advertisement for this change is it!

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Why agree to the T&C for WotLK then?........because you didn't bother to read it,
There not forcing you to change you already agreed to it when you installed WotLK

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Why agree to the T&C for WotLK then?........because you didn't bother to read it,
There not forcing you to change you already agreed to it when you installed WotLK

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This is a stupid argument. There was no alternative. Its not like they said you can agree or not agree those who dont will get a different set of terms and conditions that allow them to play indefinately with out swapping.

Its not so much an agreement as a submission. With out agreeing you cant play the game you paid for. Its a clever system you pay us your money and in return you have no rights, we hold all the cards get used to it. Mwuah hahaha. end evil cackle.

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This is a stupid argument. There was no alternative. Its not like they said you can agree or not agree those who dont will get a different set of terms and conditions that allow them to play indefinately with out swapping.

Its not so much an agreement as a submission. With out agreeing you cant play the game you paid for. Its a clever system you pay us your money and in return you have no rights, we hold all the cards get used to it. Mwuah hahaha. end evil cackle.

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Don't agree don't play their game. its not your game its their's your only paying to play on their server you don't own the server Bliz do

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Don't agree don't play their game. its not your game its their's your only paying to play on their server you don't own the server Bliz do

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However they do provide a service and simple market forces dictate you have to listen to your customers. Hence the ease with which gear is now attainable.

Customers are unhappy, just because they agreed to change doesnt mean they should do so with out fuss if they find faults.

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However they do provide a service and simple market forces dictate you have to listen to your customers. Hence the ease with which gear is now attainable.

Customers are unhappy, just because they agreed to change doesnt mean they should do so with out fuss if they find faults.

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11 million plus play this game and I expect less then 1% are whining about battlenet.....ppl whine for the sake of it

Would be nice to change the launcher.

At the moment you log into battle.net with a specific WoWaccount.......why is this? Surely you should log into battle.net and then you should be able to switch between wow accounts without re-entering your login details.

At the very least, allow us to tab into the account dropdown, as at the moment a system which combines your accounts in one place is more cumbersome to use then the old seperated system.

Yeah, it's no biggy, 10secs more or so.....but you already have a big backlash over the enforcement of battle.net, do the right thing and make the interface as slick as possible.

And I have to re-interate, you are reducing secuirty by doing this. Email addresses are available and guessable, account names could be anything.....account hijacks will increase as more people switch to battle.net, it is inevitable if you know anything at all about security......hell, everyone who has ever got a WoW phishing email knows that the undesirable that sent it has your (potential) battle.net account name on file......and once you have an account name, your over half way to having access to that account.

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Yeeeaah....coz if you got hacked, they'd only bother with your WoW accounts, not everything else you also use. Do you not think that if you got hacked/keylogged/whatever, they'd still access all your accounts anyway? Or did that thought pass you by while you QQ'd over change?

/facepalm

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Scenerio:

You have 6 WoW account's. With seperate Account names, and same/different password. Random 10-16 yr Child accesses unsuitable site and download's a keylogger. You access 3 WoW accounts before, You are "Done over" This leaves 3 WoW accounts Safe.

Now you merge all accounts to 1 battlenet account and said child does the same thing. All 6 games have instant access to them by same ACC. name and password.

I am just pointing to the Flaws in the design. They could infact design it that after you access the battlnet account,That every game you Access on the account requires its own password.

And for your infomation I have already converted. I have no qualms about it.

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Yeeeaah....coz if you got hacked, they'd only bother with your WoW accounts, not everything else you also use. Do you not think that if you got hacked/keylogged/whatever, they'd still access all your accounts anyway? Or did that thought pass you by while you QQ'd over change?

/facepalm

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Ermm, you're kinda arguing with your own silly logic here?

The added security issue after merging is: If you do get keylogged they will now be able to Steal all your wow gold, sell all items, delete characters, then open your Starcraft 2 deleted your saves etc, open Blizzard Game3, destroy that, open Blizzard Game4 destroy that too, etc.

Making it extremely hard to recover everything that has been lost in the keylogging.

Having seperate passwords for seperate entities is the advised Security, eg. email password being different to game login password, which should be different to other game login passwords which should be different to forum login passwords, to stop someone gaining access over everything in 1 fell swoop.

Battlenet, having all Blizzard games under 1 password goes against this.