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  • Xavius
  • 20. Re: 07/10 - Realms and Migration   08/10/2009 09:43:14 PDT
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If that is really how you feel, I don't think there's much we can say to appease you. You seem already bent on viewing everything as total black and us as the great evil, and any solution other than the one you propose as proof we have no care for you and others. There's little discussing with such a view, I'm afraid.


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I had long answer on this but for some reason i couldnt post it on forum in the end,so ill make it short now.

If you are really geniue in willingness to discuss this issues with me -please present your plan of solving Xavius allaince issues and timeframe in which you are going to implement that.And ofc if that plan doesnt work in tha ttime frame are you willing to do some drastical change on your policies so far-like merging that server with other one or closeing it down by offering FCM to any server of players choseing?
"In this case that is - in our opinion in the best interest for the players of WoW - to encourage and enable (but not force) an evening out of the realm population across existing realms. "
Just to clarify-does enable in that sentence refers to stuff like PCM or not?
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If prefer ACTION on issues not appeasement.

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Thundgot
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  • 21. Re: 07/10 - Realms and Migration   08/10/2009 11:04:14 PDT
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If you are really geniue in willingness to discuss this issues with me -please present your plan of solving Xavius allaince issues and timeframe in which you are going to implement that.And ofc if that plan doesnt work in tha ttime frame are you willing to do some drastical change on your policies so far-like merging that server with other one or closeing it down by offering FCM to any server of players choseing?

The plan: continue to monitor all World of Warcraft realms closely and use the tools available to even out the population across the realms.

Realm management is an ongoing task in which we consider all realms and address matters across all of them. We do not make specific plan for individual realms over other realms, but incorporate them all into the overall picture. Of course, like other elements of running a game of this type, we continually evaluate how we do things, and may decide to change some of them; you yourself have commented on some of our changes to FCM, in which we have lately addressed faction differences in addition to population differences - which has led to few opportunities to migrate to Xavius in the recent months. However, such changes will not be done in the way of "if by this date we do not see that number we will change those things". For that, there are simply too many elements to consider.


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"In this case that is - in our opinion in the best interest for the players of WoW - to encourage and enable (but not force) an evening out of the realm population across existing realms. "
Just to clarify-does enable in that sentence refers to stuff like PCM or not?

I was referring to the realm tags and Free Character Migration. However, the automatic locking of Paid Character Transfers (which I guess is what you meant) to realms with too high queues could also be considered a factor in this. So I guess the answer to that is "kinda, in some way, but not really". ;-)

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  • 22. Re: 07/10 - Realms and Migration   08/10/2009 13:44:46 PDT
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Your speaking about doing the evening out in a longer time frame but... we got these free migrations from Al'Akir for more than 2 months i think, or close to it but all I see is our Auction House constatnly growing (as in more items are up there avg, from 26000-30000 now we are 32000-35000) which suggests an incrase in number of horde players.

We also get so many new Xrealmers here that the most the free migrations do is slowing down the worsening of the ratio and the status of the realm. And there are no signs of indication of Blizzard doing anything about it, If hard tools are needed to fix realm imbalances than lets use the hard tools, sorry If you wanna join your buddy on an unbalanced, overpopulated realm but everyone should wait out their turn so we can play in a good and balanced enviroment and sacrifices need to be made.

I guess what you consider a problem is a realm that gets a que of 2000 every day from 18:00 to 23:00 (FULL REALM), or a realm like Magtheridon was in TBC, with a nice total number of 0 raiding guilds on alliance side while horde was the most progessed horde side in the world, with a nice AH ratio of 40-50~ horde players for each alliance one (A:H RATIO BALANCE).
If this is what you consider "great care" it's not just deeply upsetting, but also a slap in the face. This is how it seems/seemed and this is what it feels like, go on and correct me if I'm wrong with numbers but sadly we can only rely on player experience since you keep the numbers, or even % infos so secretly that nobody knows anything about how populated are realms or whats faction balance accurately, which I still wonder why is it so secret?
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  • Xavius
  • 23. Re: 07/10 - Realms and Migration   08/10/2009 16:22:15 PDT
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The plan: continue to monitor all World of Warcraft realms closely and use the tools available to even out the population across the realms.

Realm management is an ongoing task in which we consider all realms and address matters across all of them. We do not make specific plan for individual realms over other realms, but incorporate them all into the overall picture. Of course, like other elements of running a game of this type, we continually evaluate how we do things, and may decide to change some of them



If this is true,which i dont doubt, how is it possilbe that in 99% of cases same server suffer from same problems-one with large populations -lags,quese,etc.. and same with undepopulations.Have you ever considered that your currents tools arent fit in solving large imbalance situations and maybe you need different tools to solve them.For me its is clearly such a case.Also what amount of time is considered by Blizzard to be satisfactory in solving such an issues.Maybe you considere that few years isnt enough to solve such and issues,but for me couple of months is too long.

Also do you have char on such a realm and would you personally or who ever is in charge of making those disssions(maybe whole team in charge of it) start to play on Xavius to experience our server problems in first hand and then maybe you would be feal differently about solving issues on our and similar servers?

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  • 24. Re: 07/10 - Realms and Migration   08/10/2009 23:30:51 PDT
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Also do you have char on such a realm and would you personally or who ever is in charge of making those disssions(maybe whole team in charge of it) start to play on Xavius to experience our server problems in first hand and then maybe you would be feal differently about solving issues on our and similar servers

That's really a question constructed solely to devalue or discredit somebody's input - "you don't know/care, because you don't experience it personally!" ;-)

Why would you want anybody to feel differently about addressing realm population concerns? If after our exchange here you still think we're not on the same side on that matter, then I at least hope a few others gained a new understanding. That we don't implement your suggestions doesn't mean we disagree on the concern, only that we have many other elements to consider and we arrive at a different conclusion.

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  • Xavius
  • 25. Re: 07/10 - Realms and Migration   09/10/2009 03:26:14 PDT
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Why are you skiping to last part of post and not answering me on this part-
"If this is true,which i dont doubt, how is it possilbe that in 99% of cases same server suffer from same problems-one with large populations -lags,quese,etc.. and same with undepopulations.Have you ever considered that your currents tools arent fit in solving large imbalance situations and maybe you need different tools to solve them.For me its is clearly such a case.Also what amount of time is considered by Blizzard to be satisfactory in solving such an issues.Maybe you considere that few years isnt enough to solve such and issues,but for me couple of months is too long"

but instead you go negative on my post again.

And to answers your post-i have feeling of you not careing for my issues enough because you are using same old tools to fix it ,when it didnt work in past and you dont come up with new things to solve it.And i even put some of suggestion into suggestion forum,but clearly Blizzard wouldnt go for them since it would cost them part of PCM profits which i can undesrtand ,after all you are company not charity and i cant expect you to act differntly.
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  • 26. Re: 07/10 - Realms and Migration   09/10/2009 06:34:13 PDT
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To me it clearly comes down that the conclusion is that your tools to help balancing A:H ratio on servers and to balance server population has failed in most cases (not all, for example Tarren Mill free migration was a succes in my opinion but just about when the server was becoming an appealing destination to trasnsfer to you have immediately cut trasnfers down and we are left to choose instead of "which is better" from "which is the least worse"...

Blizzard should consider some faster and in some terms, more radical ways to balance realms, population cap, blocked transfers/character creation for overpoplated faction etc.

You should defanately consider using a free faction change, some people may not want to leave the realm or their battlegroup but would consider swapping to the less populated side of the realm.
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  • 27. Re: 07/10 - Realms and Migration   10/10/2009 06:33:25 PDT
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any idea if the free transfer from magtheridon will be up 1 more week after this ? it will take some time to organize the entire guild to transfer and dont want to leave anyone behind
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  • 28. Re: 07/10 - Realms and Migration   10/10/2009 10:25:34 PDT
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any idea if the free transfer from magtheridon will be up 1 more week after this ? it will take some time to organize the entire guild to transfer and dont want to leave anyone behind


Think you can count on it to be up for 1 more week.
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  • 29. Re: 07/10 - Realms and Migration   11/10/2009 10:47:26 PDT
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Soooooooooo.

When is there finally a new realm comming up again ?

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  • 30. Re: 07/10 - Realms and Migration   11/10/2009 14:46:34 PDT
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Why no free ally mogration to Korgall? we lack some allys :<

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  • Draenor
  • 31. Re: 07/10 - Realms and Migration   11/10/2009 15:04:17 PDT
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any news regarding new realms? :-/
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  • Argent Dawn
  • 32. Re: 07/10 - Realms and Migration   11/10/2009 15:30:51 PDT
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Me and seven others from my new student residence would love a new realm to conquer together. :)
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  • Auchindoun
  • 33. Re: 07/10 - Realms and Migration   12/10/2009 00:03:09 PDT
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Unfortunatly Blizzard doesn't seem give any info on opening new realms. They'll just open a new topic on the forums on the day they release one...
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  • Magtheridon
  • 34. Re: 07/10 - Realms and Migration   13/10/2009 10:08:15 PDT
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Magtheridon > Darkspear, I'd say!
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  • Darkmoon Faire
  • 35. Re: 07/10 - Realms and Migration   13/10/2009 23:04:56 PDT
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Yeah they don't make life easy for us rerollers ;)

(ps we are recruiting all classes ;) -> Magicguild.net)
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  • 36. Re: 07/10 - Realms and Migration   14/10/2009 04:19:27 PDT
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Me and seven others from my new student residence would love a new realm to conquer together. :)

Interested in setting a serious premade guild or such up? Just to have an organized start with like-minded people when/if a new server ever appears.
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