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Your point would be valid if those classes you mention weren't already very powerful.
Feral is (was) very poor and that instant cyclone was the way of buffing them without INSANE SUPER WTF Burst.
(But on a side note: PoM poly =/= OP, Deathcoil =/= OP, Nature's Grasp =/= OP)

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You are saying that PoM(which has a huge cd compared to ps), deathcoil(2m cd) natures grasp(1m cd), is the same as cyclone ?
Right.
And feral didnt have already the burst? They werent powerful enough ?Its a simple hunter case, hunters are very powerful already, so do restodruids, but the baddies stuck on low rating=no hunters/druids in sk100, buff them ? NO, tell them to l2p, feral were already way to powerful with a priest/priest+rogue, i would say they would deserve a nerf after s6 domination in 2s :p
The rest: See below.

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Its blind without any cooldown. This is perfectly balanced and not a stupid change at all.

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Thats right.

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fair enough. but using the instant cast cyclone should trigger a 2 minute cooldown (at least) on the ability.

actually, cyclone is so powerful even with a cast time that it should have a 2 minute cd anyway.

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This is actually, a reasonable idea(the triggering the 2m cd on the talent.

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its irrevelant.
he is posting from his alt for a reason.
and please, with 3xx lower ratings, in your setup(with ~50% win), be gentle with me, and dont argue about my ratings, thank you ;)

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how is it irrelevant when im posting on my FERAL DRUID, the class this qq thread is about? youre just some biased tree and im the retard for trying to argue with you, hence i rather stop now before i look even more stupid. everything is said, you disqualified yourself on way too many occasions, be it in the ridiculous comparisons to locks, mages or the apparant cluelessness when it comes to feral gameplay, its clunkyness and the lack of defense mechanisms when trained in a world where armor doesnt mean anything anymore.

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how is it irrelevant when im posting on my FERAL DRUID, the class this qq thread is about? youre just some biased tree and im the retard for trying to argue with you, hence i rather stop now before i look even more stupid. everything is said, you disqualified yourself on way too many occasions, be it in the ridiculous comparisons to locks, mages or the apparant cluelessness when it comes to feral gameplay, its clunkyness and the lack of defense mechanisms when trained in a world where armor doesnt mean anything anymore.

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Yes coz comparing cyclone to repentance isnt retarded :D
You are right, i am the retarded coz i didnt compare feral utility to rets :D:D:D:D:D
Really, i should stop taking drugs :D

comparing ferals to rets is the only thing that made sense here, since they both compete for the same spots in a team - the loldamage + utility spot. now i wonder how many teams would actually pick a feral over a ret.

but yea, whatever, youre just way to full of yourself to be argued with.

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comparing ferals to rets is the only thing that made sense here, since they both compete for the same spots in a team - the loldamage + utility spot. now i wonder how many teams would actually pick a feral over a ret.

but yea, whatever, youre just way to full of yourself to be argued with.

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:D:D:d
yes, yes my dear friend, comparing a feral to a ret makes sense :D:D:D:D:D
and saying that ret is better is also awesome thing !
you are right !
you are my ideal !
When i grow up(not sure i'l) i want to be someTHING like you ! :D
And how many would choose a feral ?
Just check that priest +rogue in your team, they pick you up, even thou you are.... a NICE MAN ! :)

I have reasons to be full with myself :D

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You are saying that PoM(which has a huge cd compared to ps), deathcoil(2m cd) natures grasp(1m cd), is the same as cyclone ?
Right.
And feral didnt have already the burst? They werent powerful enough ?Its a simple hunter case, hunters are very powerful already, so do restodruids, but the baddies stuck on low rating=no hunters/druids in sk100, buff them ? NO, tell them to l2p, feral were already way to powerful with a priest/priest+rogue, i would say they would deserve a nerf after s6 domination in 2s :p
The rest: See below.

Thats right.


This is actually, a reasonable idea(the triggering the 2m cd on the talent.

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Feral's damage is easily preventable, I do it constantly.
It's easy to force them to shift so much that innervating their healer is out of the question.
Their healing is negligable.
They don't have a MS effect.
Their snare is easily dispelable.
They are squishy as heck in cat form.
They have trouble getting away from enemies (See #2)
They have 1 effective peel, instant cyclone/roots seing as getting off a cast as mele vs a pillar humper is near impossible (see warrior ability Slam).
Bear forms "insane armour" is cut through by Arp warriors and every magical class.
They have 0 defence against magic.

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Feral's damage is easily preventable, I do it constantly.

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It isnt, phisical dots arent dispellable.

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It's easy to force them to shift so much that innervating their healer is out of the question.

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No, it isnt, not every team has a frostmage.

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Their healing is negligable.

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Did you try to use tranquility behind the pillar ? makes wonders when your priest have low hp !

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They don't have a MS effect.

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Neither death knights have.

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Their snare is easily dispelable.

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no, it isnt easily dispellable

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They are squishy as heck in cat form.

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Just like 90 % of other classes without godmode form(rogues, warlocks, priests and so on)

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They have trouble getting away from enemies (See #2)

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Feral charge, natures grasp.

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They have 1 effective peel, instant cyclone/roots seing as getting off a cast as mele vs a pillar humper is near impossible (see warrior ability Slam).

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Why do you want to peel someone who is pillarhumping ?oO

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Bear forms "insane armour" is cut through by Arp warriors and every magical class.

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Just like every other class, they just dont get magically 50k hp if they want so.

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They have 0 defence against magic.

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Feral charge, 35 million stun, cyclone(even not instant is powerful) and los.
Like every other class have as defense vs casters.

They didnt need this, at the maximum, with a 2 minute cd, it would be ok,but currently, seeing how spammable it is, nah, they dont need it.

So many clueless people here, it's not even funny.

A feral in the hands of a right person pre instant cyclone was deadly.

A feral in the hands of a right person after instant cyclone is like season 5 DK's.

A feral in the hands of a bad person pre instant cyclone sucked.

A feral in the hands of a bad person pre instant cyclone is deadly.

The ferals didn't need this buff, They should change it to be anything but cyclone really, an undispellable 6 second CC which prevents healing/can be used to set up burst and is hard to prevent if the team has half a brain is too much

and dennance, please stop posting, you said protadins were fine.. please...

I've fought a few ferals this season, and all i can say is if the player has half a clue, he can make your life really painful.

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So many clueless people here, it's not even funny.

A feral in the hands of a right person pre instant cyclone was deadly.

A feral in the hands of a right person after instant cyclone is like season 5 DK's.

A feral in the hands of a bad person pre instant cyclone sucked.

A feral in the hands of a bad person pre instant cyclone is deadly.

The ferals didn't need this buff, They should change it to be anything but cyclone really, an undispellable 6 second CC which prevents healing/can be used to set up burst and is hard to prevent if the team has half a brain is too much

and dennance, please stop posting, you said protadins were fine.. please...

I've fought a few ferals this season, and all i can say is if the player has half a clue, he can make your life really painful.

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mangle shred febo cyclone.
feral became hard yo, and the sad thing is, that it works, ferals skillcap is similiar(even lower?) to tree of life(in cleave ^^) skillcap for 2k+.