Sadly this is how Blizzard seems to operate. I mean there's the ONE Blizzard poster who replied in the other thread, but other than that...? Nothing.

Awesome customer service yo.

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people want answers and fixes that you have ignored or not offered solutions to.

you should not expect poeple to wait 30 mins plus for bg in any bracket and still expect to take a subcription fee for a game thats not woring as intended.

and for the blue post who said that its better to wait a little longer and have even numbers - what a load of rubbish those who have entered bg's have already posted the numbers are not even so this patch is one epic fail.

I emailed customer support ( no answer)

I phoned the billing line (not taking calls)

This is bad customer service when people have complaints and you cant deal with them.

I'm not willing to pay £15 to transfer to another realm and have the same proplem so what do u suggest?

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Very well said /clap on the back /bowrespectfully

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Battles can still start with uneven sides as people do not always enter the Battleground they have queued for.

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Your ignorance knows no limits. Now not only i wait hours for bgs on Vindication but STILL start outnumbered. Like always. And you just said it yourself what's the point of this whole hassle?
Also how do you expect 6- 8 realm pooled bgs to have any bgs at all with such limbing system?

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No blue said what you have claimed them to. :) I believe you're referring to something I said:Please avoid misquoting to cause uproar. :)

Battles can still start with uneven sides as people do not always enter the Battleground they have queued for. What is happening is an ongoing attempt to bring more balanced numbers to the Battlegrounds. This has adversely raised queue times, and we're monitoring this situation closely and will see what improvements can be made down the line.

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my friend, you don't have to improve this thing, just make it back to what it was, it was better for us 60 / 70's and the wait time at lv 80 where much shorter, plz, try to think the way we feel:(

too right, these days i only log on to play a bg or 2 and before the patch i could log on and play a bg. now i log on sometimes dont even have time after waiting 20-30 mins to enter. it really is pitiful...
i would rather be outnumbered and get my ass wiped than sit in a battleroom waiting for anything up to half hour.
this sucks!

Why players need the option to join another BG after already having accepted a place in one is beyond me.

They have made their choice to join a BG, and should not need the option to join another shortly after, as if they really wanted to play that BG instead they would have queued for it to the exclusion of any others.

Ancilorn the sentiments are quite unilateral ... the system is flawed in implementation , you say its being monitored and well fair play ... The devs have probably never rolled back a patch and are probably shaking in their boots imagining how many people want that to happen ...

But the point is the current queue watching system was crafted out of a mad inspired idea that just doesnt work ... other methods of balancing are possible , but this one isnt working , if it is kept god help them try to make it less fubar'ed considering its a bad system to begin with

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This has adversely raised queue times, and we're monitoring this situation closely and will see what improvements can be made down the line.

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You don't have to be a rocket scientist, to figure out the latest patch has ruined pvp in many different ways. I advise you to change things back the way they used to be.

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No blue said what you have claimed them to. :) I believe you're referring to something I said:Please avoid misquoting to cause uproar. :)

Battles can still start with uneven sides as people do not always enter the Battleground they have queued for. What is happening is an ongoing attempt to bring more balanced numbers to the Battlegrounds. This has adversely raised queue times, and we're monitoring this situation closely and will see what improvements can be made down the line.

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Hi , firstly - thanks for the feedback on the issue

you say "and will see what improvements can be made down the line" I am guessing the answer is no , but do you have any sort of timescale on this

I have literally been waiting hours for some bg's to come up (vindication) , as I only play wow for BGS , this is obviously not something I'd be willing to continue paying for (sorry I know that sounds a tad dramatic )

Dont get me wrong - the change was for all the right reasons, and when I first saw mention of the 40v40 queue thing I was happy (thinking AV would be balanced all the time etc)

the net result however has been a disaster - it's still unbalanced (like you say not everyone enters) - yet you have to wait hours for this "unbalanced" match to begin
before "patch day" , to be fair it was sometimes 10v40 , but if you played during peak times it was a reasonable "balance" of players - ...............this patch has absolutely killed pvp for me

any hint of a timescale this will be fixed would be appreciated (ball park ) . . .. I use the word "fixed" as I am hoping the development team did not expect end users to be waiting hours on end for a match to start ....................."down the line" is a little vauge for me :-\

thanks again for your feedback :)

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and we're monitoring this situation closely and will see what improvements can be made down the line.

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Brilliant. 'Down the line' - another 4 months of waiting for something to be fixed that never should've been tampered with in the first place =/

How do you expect Blizzard to fix people not wanting to play AV?

Force people to queue?

Since BG-XP, lvl 80s just stopped playing AV, give it time and maybe people will return

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How do you expect Blizzard to fix people not wanting to play AV?

Force people to queue?

Since BG-XP, lvl 80s just stopped playing AV, give it time and maybe people will return

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AV was fine to play , WSG was fine to play AB was fine to play SOTA was fine to play IOC was fine to play

Blizzard released a patch

none of the above start in what I would call a reasonable timeframe (15mins plus , some not at all over 2hrs + )
yesterday , I waited 42mins for a EOTS match to start , AV is well - rediculous -

This was fine prior to the patch so the issue here is not "how do you expect blizz to fix people not wanting to play" , the issue is how , and how quickly Blizz can remedy the issues brought about by the latest patch

They cant force people to que for BGs, they cant force people to take the invites. Instead of releasing your nerd-rage, try to think of a solution that could work, theoreticly. Its not that simple. And saying that the changes made in 3.2.2 should be reverted doesn't work either - as it wasn't very good before. Perhaps it worked well in some Battlegroups, but not in all.

Atm, the situation for me is pretty good. The que times are perhaps a minute or two, but thats really no big deal. If you're playing at lvl 60/70, then ofc the ques will be longer as there are fewer people playing. Just buy the expansion and get your toon up to 80. Balancing the game for level capped players is always going to be the no 1 priority.

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They cant force people to que for BGs

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They wouldn't need to, except with all the problems they've introduced to BGs in the last 2 patches, many people can no longer be bothered to queue.

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they cant force people to take the invites.

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No, but they can give them a debuff of a shorter duration then they'd get for deserting, because they are in essence doing the same as a deserter would to the other players.

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Instead of releasing your nerd-rage, try to think of a solution that could work, theoreticly. Its not that simple. And saying that the changes made in 3.2.2 should be reverted doesn't work either - as it wasn't very good before. Perhaps it worked well in some Battlegroups, but not in all.

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It shouldn't be our job to think of solutions, that is what we are paying Blizzard for, yet time and again they have shown themselves unable to implement ideas with any degree of thought devoted to them, and after the release of patch notes, completely ignoring the playerbase's observation of any problems with their ideas, or glaring omissions in their implementation.

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Atm, the situation for me is pretty good. The que times are perhaps a minute or two, but thats really no big deal. If you're playing at lvl 60/70, then ofc the ques will be longer as there are fewer people playing. Just buy the expansion and get your toon up to 80. Balancing the game for level capped players is always going to be the no 1 priority.

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'I'm all right, Jack' is not a valid response to any complaint.

You clearly have no idea of the reasons for people to limit their characters to lower levels for PvP, so let me elucidate you on a few of them:

At lower levels the players are more dedicated to actually playing the BGs. They have no reason to farm marks or honor, because not levelling, they have no need for those things.

Once a player has attained the best gear available for their bracket, they will no longer have to grind to procure more. Conversely 80s will need to grind for PvP as arena seasons progress, and expansions are released.

Grinding for gear ruins the gameplay of 80 BGs, as does the lack of dedication of many of the players.

Balancing the game for level capped players is an excercise in futility, because with the level cap always increasing, new gear, abilities and talents being introduced, it will never be balanced.

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They cant force people to que for BGs, they cant force people to take the invites. Instead of releasing your nerd-rage, try to think of a solution that could work, theoreticly. Its not that simple. And saying that the changes made in 3.2.2 should be reverted doesn't work either - as it wasn't very good before. Perhaps it worked well in some Battlegroups, but not in all.

Atm, the situation for me is pretty good. The que times are perhaps a minute or two, but thats really no big deal. If you're playing at lvl 60/70, then ofc the ques will be longer as there are fewer people playing. Just buy the expansion and get your toon up to 80. Balancing the game for level capped players is always going to be the no 1 priority.

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" try to think of a solution that could work, " - prior to the patch queue times were fine - now they are horrific it's not down to the player base to "think of a solution that could work" - I simply want to be able to play in a reasonable amount of time
I am hoping the queue times will improve but we will see - vindication is really bad

as for "nerdrage" people are simply asking blizzard to
a) respond
b) provide a solution to problems brought about by the latest patch

me , well I've just asked for a timescale of "down the line"

quite reasonable really ..

hopefully it will be sorted soon , but from what you are saying it seems fine on some battlegroups

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Battles can still start with uneven sides as people do not always enter the Battleground they have queued for. What is happening is an ongoing attempt to bring more balanced numbers to the Battlegrounds. This has adversely raised queue times, and we're monitoring this situation closely and will see what improvements can be made down the line.

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allow players to queue just for 1 BG


problem solved