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  • 1. Re: Serious Lore Problems with Cataclysm   20/09/2009 06:13:35 PDT
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Tauren believe in balance - they feel they haven't given enough sun love, tauren pallies are sunstriders (or something like that) they make sense...because the sun supposedly produces holy energy.

Dwarf shamen - look up the wildhammer clan, they have shamen and it does fit them asetically.

Nelf mages - now we enter the difficult unexplained stages and I have to agree - blizzard has explaining to do, as far as I can see though - it will be to do with the moon as Tauradins are to do with the sun.
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  • 2. Re: Serious Lore Problems with Cataclysm   20/09/2009 06:23:13 PDT
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*Sigh*

Tauren Priests/Paladins - Go to the druid tent in Thunder Bluff and theres a explaination.They use the sun as their source of powers,like the nelves use the moon(Elune)

Dwarf Shamans - As the nelf said above,Wilhammer Clan + the earthen had shaman-like powers,and since theyre making discoveries in Ulduar...put 2 and 2 together.

Nelf Mages : Theres going to be a similar discussion to the explaination of Tauren Priests/palas in 3.2.2 in the Temple of the moon.

Next please!
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  • 3. Re: Serious Lore Problems with Cataclysm   20/09/2009 06:25:58 PDT
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Good man! That Gnome above did something, I would like to explain it to you all QQing children, its called research I know it looks like a big word but its quite simple, you look things up before complaining to see if your arguments are any good or just silly.
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  • 4. Re: Serious Lore Problems with Cataclysm   20/09/2009 06:26:16 PDT
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The new expansion's class and race combos are insane- Night Elf mages? When would that ever happen in Lore? Nelfs banned magic after it nearly killed them all. Massive mistake.


im asuming high elfs will rejoin and if so im hoping you will play highelf instead of nightelf, and as such the skins should change acordingly


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And Tauren Paladins/Priests? That's not what Taurens are "about" at all, I can't see how it would work with Lore.


tauren paladin n priests will be sun worshipers not light worshipers they will be drawing there power from the sun. blood elfs draw the light from captured space men =P taurens have been working closly with the paladins in the crucaid so that will probably have somthing to do with it


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Dwarf Shamans?!? No! That's just totally wrong even if you know nothing about WoW Lore!

there are already dwarf shamans =\

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  • 5. Re: Serious Lore Problems with Cataclysm   20/09/2009 06:29:53 PDT
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The new expansion's class and race combos are insane- Night Elf mages? When would that ever happen in Lore? Nelfs banned magic after it nearly killed them all. Massive mistake.

And Tauren Paladins/Priests? That's not what Taurens are "about" at all, I can't see how it would work with Lore.

Dwarf Shamans?!? No! That's just totally wrong even if you know nothing about WoW Lore!

It's just not right, Blizzard stop trying so hard! We like WoW as it is; because it works! We don't need it to be made "better".

As an RPer I'm a bit disappointed with the new changes, except for Human hunters (which makes sense).

(The opening of Gilnaes is great, really looking forward to that!)

Anyway, what does everyone else think?


You have serious problem with you.
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  • Nordrassil
  • 6. Re: Serious Lore Problems with Cataclysm   20/09/2009 06:31:10 PDT
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How many more threads about this we actually need?

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  • 7. Re: Serious Lore Problems with Cataclysm   20/09/2009 07:07:17 PDT
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How many more threads about this we actually need?


Enough to force them to sticky one.

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  • Aggramar
  • 8. Re: Serious Lore Problems with Cataclysm   20/09/2009 07:15:10 PDT
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The new expansion's class and race combos are insane- Night Elf mages? When would that ever happen in Lore? Nelfs banned magic after it nearly killed them all. Massive mistake.


And now they've got a close-knit alliance with Draenei (arcane users), Humans (arcane users), Gnomes (arcane users) and Dwarves (arcane users). That would have an effect on people.


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And Tauren Paladins/Priests? That's not what Taurens are "about" at all, I can't see how it would work with Lore.


''I don't understand the lore so it sucks!!!''



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Dwarf Shamans?!? No! That's just totally wrong even if you know nothing about WoW Lore!


Except for the fact that Dwarf shamans have always existed. Once again, just because you don't understand lore doesn't mean that it's wrong.


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It's just not right, Blizzard stop trying so hard! We like WoW as it is; because it works! We don't need it to be made "better".


Yes we we do.


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As an RPer I'm a bit disappointed with the new changes, except for Human hunters (which makes sense).


For an RPer you have a major lack of lore knowledge.

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  • 9. Re: Serious Lore Problems with Cataclysm   20/09/2009 07:29:47 PDT
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Q u o t e:


Enough to force them to sticky one.


Nah, they'll never sticky one, Blizz finds this entertaining. Lets face it, whenever blizzard brings out something new, people complain.

TBC; Complaints because Draenei weren't in lore before, Blood Elves all joined Illidan, took the game off of the world of Azeroth, culminating according to some people the death of wow - Conclusion - all the QQ'ing was pointless because TBC sold extremely well and saw a massive jump in subscribers, and it didn't kill off WoW.

WOTLK: QQ about brining in playable DK's because they are all evil according to lore so far, brought in Northrend, with QQ'ing that they were bringing Arthas in too early, it was a cop out expansion, blizz was running out of ideas, there was new races, blah blah blah. Oh yes and calls that it would be the death of wow - Conclusion - complete and utter load of BS. WOTLK has sold well, the DK class, whilst still being touched up has on the whole added to the game and the story-line with northrend and Arthas is extremely well written and portrayed personally ( although the tournament is a bit silly, what the hell is Fordring thinking?) also, didn't kill of wow.

Cataclysm - QQ'ing about flying mounts everywhere killing off world PvP, QQ about lack of places to visit, how it is just a revamp of the old areas and adds nothing new, how the complete overhaul of the talent trees wont work ( i haven't seen any threads on this but i dont doubt some people think this) the new races make no sense lore wise, the new class combos make no sense lore wise, path of the titans is just a cop out because they didnt want to give us 10 new levels, complaints over there just being 5 new levels and not 10. OH and not to mention QQ about brining in Deathwing, who is too powerful and we shouldnt be able to defeat. Oh and it will be the death of WoW -conclusion - Ill fill you in when the expansion comes out .

people will complain whenever anything is changed because theyre whiney gits. Lore wise its a dumb complaint; we dont write the lore, blizz does, if you dont like it, tough, simple as that.

Complaining over not enough new content - I bet the same people would complain if they thought there was too much new content as well so again its a pointless argument.

Actually in fact complaining over any of the changes would be a pointless argument. If they offend you that much, STOP PLAYING THE BLOODY GAME!!!!!! Otherwise, sit down, shut up and level to 85 when Cata comes out.
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  • The Sha'tar
  • 10. Re: Serious Lore Problems with Cataclysm   20/09/2009 08:26:49 PDT
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funny thing

night elf mages and tauren paladi/priest are actually easier to explain lorewise than gnome priest and even human/undead hunters

there is actually lore stating that there is in all of azeroths history only ONE human who EVER became a ranger which would be the basis of the hunter

gnomes do not belive in the light so how can they become priests?

i think it's hillarious that the class/race combos that are the hardest to explain are the ones nobody discuss
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  • Shattered Halls
  • 11. Re: Serious Lore Problems with Cataclysm   20/09/2009 08:30:52 PDT
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If you care about lore, you shouldn't have rolled a draenei
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  • Nordrassil
  • 12. Re: Serious Lore Problems with Cataclysm   20/09/2009 08:33:46 PDT
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Actually, I have more problems with the fact that the OP is a "RPer", on a guild called <The Lore Keepers>...

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  • 13. Re: Serious Lore Problems with Cataclysm   20/09/2009 09:08:48 PDT
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Actually, I have more problems with the fact that the OP is a "RPer", on a guild called <The Lore Keepers>...
Epic failure, I must say.


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But hey, I'm all excited, just like I was for 3.1 which was announced the big warlock love patch
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  • 15. Re: Serious Lore Problems with Cataclysm   20/09/2009 09:29:53 PDT
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blizzard will probebly figure out something good why they did this changes.

Srsly save your QQ for "wtfOmG tauren paladin killed me in one warstormp"
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  • Frostwhisper
  • 16. Re: Serious Lore Problems with Cataclysm   20/09/2009 09:51:35 PDT
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If you're going to complain about anything, it should be forsaken hunter. I can't in any way see why a living animal (pet) willingly would accompany something dead. But I guess Blizzard will come up with a reason for that as well.
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  • Mazrigos
  • 17. Re: Serious Lore Problems with Cataclysm   20/09/2009 09:55:07 PDT
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The new expansion's class and race combos are insane- Night Elf mages? When would that ever happen in Lore? Nelfs banned magic after it nearly killed them all. Massive mistake.

And Tauren Paladins/Priests? That's not what Taurens are "about" at all, I can't see how it would work with Lore.

Dwarf Shamans?!? No! That's just totally wrong even if you know nothing about WoW Lore!

It's just not right, Blizzard stop trying so hard! We like WoW as it is; because it works! We don't need it to be made "better".

As an RPer I'm a bit disappointed with the new changes, except for Human hunters (which makes sense).

(The opening of Gilnaes is great, really looking forward to that!)


Anyway, what does everyone else think?


You may want to actually read the lore before posting. The biggest sign that you clearly know hardly little and most of what you know is taken from WoW Wiki is this line right here.

"Dwarf Shamans?!? No! That's just totally wrong even if you know nothing about WoW Lore!"

Go Search the word's Wildhammer.

Thanks and goodnight


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  • 18. Re: Serious Lore Problems with Cataclysm   20/09/2009 11:33:37 PDT
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Only new race/class combo I have a problem with is the Nelf mages, that is just wrong, you could get away with it by adding the High elves that are left into the alliance as a playable race or sub-race you get only when you slect the mage option on the night elf screen but that is not what they are planning.

Also minor balacning issue is that with the additon of nelf mages all ally race will be able to be mages,
with the addition of Belf warriors all race now have them and with the addition of Tauren priest all race now have them.

Tauren Priests are fine, as for Tauran pallys Blizz wanted to give the horde another pally race and the taurans are the only ones they could give them too (after all what would have happened if they had anounce Orc paladins)

One surgestion though drop Nelf mages and give us Nelf shammys instead its not a hard stretch and makes more sences thatn Nelf mages.
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  • Doomhammer
  • 19. Re: Serious Lore Problems with Cataclysm   20/09/2009 11:42:10 PDT
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Wait, if worgens get druid.. isn't like. That worgens can turn to cat, bear, crow, tree, moonkin, worgen and human? thats.. whoa.

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