I am very upset i've been forced to leave the lvl 60 battleground experience behind me, indeed i came close to closing this account on that basis.

But many more people have taken that step and have expressed their opposition to the changes "accidentally" brought about in patch 3.2.2 ... I have seen GM activity on only one front ... Locking petition posts ... 4 have been locked in the last 18 hours, yet i dont see those same gm's ensuring the community that the issue is being looked at or that its being reviewed... Someone has stole their tongues but not their BanHammers ...

I want Gms to tell the community what is going to happen to Bg's since this patch was NOT well thought out at all... If your going to moderate the forums where people have posed direct questions and asked for Authoritative responses and do nothing but Lock petition threads looking for answers, then what good are you?

Please any Gm reply to this or another post and tell us

* What will happen to twinks of all shapes and sizes 60's , 70's ...
* What will happen to battlegroups with queue times to make your head hurt ...
* Who and where should we complain if you cant provide the answers from Authority inside this forum

I humbly as for a Blue reply to this or one of the very similar posts that now litter this forum...

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I am very upset i've been forced to leave the lvl 60 battleground experience behind me, indeed i came close to closing this account on that basis.

But many more people have taken that step and have expressed their opposition to the changes "accidentally" brought about in patch 3.2.2 ... I have seen GM activity on only one front ... Locking petition posts ... 4 have been locked in the last 18 hours, yet i dont see those same gm's ensuring the community that the issue is being looked at or that its being reviewed... Someone has stole their tongues but not their BanHammers ...

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Well, petition threads are against Big Blue's forum rules and as such will always be locked even if not a single Blue replies to any thread in any forum. As far as the feature being accidentally implemented. The post I haerd was that it was accidentally implemented "sooner than planned". Not an accident all together, just too soon.

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I want Gms to tell the community what is going to happen to Bg's since this patch was NOT well thought out at all... If your going to moderate the forums where people have posed direct questions and asked for Authoritative responses and do nothing but Lock petition threads looking for answers, then what good are you?

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The Blues always ahd a very bad history on replying to our threads. Especially here on the EU forums, moreso than on the US ones.

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I humbly as for a Blue reply to this or one of the very similar posts that now litter this forum...

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Now that is nice. I really hope you will get the reply you so patiently wait for. Would be nice, especially since you managed to make your request civil and in a well formulated post, instead of resorting to the sadly so oftne seen "BLIZZ FIX IT NOW!111"

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I am very upset i've been forced to leave the lvl 60 battleground experience behind me, indeed i came close to closing this account on that basis.

But many more people have taken that step and have expressed their opposition to the changes "accidentally" brought about in patch 3.2.2 ... I have seen GM activity on only one front ... Locking petition posts ... 4 have been locked in the last 18 hours, yet i dont see those same gm's ensuring the community that the issue is being looked at or that its being reviewed... Someone has stole their tongues but not their BanHammers ...

I want Gms to tell the community what is going to happen to Bg's since this patch was NOT well thought out at all... If your going to moderate the forums where people have posed direct questions and asked for Authoritative responses and do nothing but Lock petition threads looking for answers, then what good are you?

Please any Gm reply to this or another post and tell us

* What will happen to twinks of all shapes and sizes 60's , 70's ...
* What will happen to battlegroups with queue times to make your head hurt ...
* Who and where should we complain if you cant provide the answers from Authority inside this forum

I humbly as for a Blue reply to this or one of the very similar posts that now litter this forum...

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agree, if we truly are going down with our 60 / 70 play then I suggest we get something in return for all hardwork, besides, when will the GM's start to show some honor and face these posts ?

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agree, if we truly are going down with our 60 / 70 play then I suggest we get something in return for all hardwork, besides, when will the GM's start to show some honor and face these posts ?

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Unfortunately according to Big Blue's TOC's we never have the right to get anything if they change the game the way hey see it fit. No matter what the current issue at hand may be.

And...honor doesn't have much of a place in capitalism. Sadly.

I want to one shot lowbies too, they took it away from me too, arrr.

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Unfortunately according to Big Blue's TOC's we never have the right to get anything if they change the game the way hey see it fit. No matter what the current issue at hand may be.

And...honor doesn't have much of a place in capitalism. Sadly.

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aye, but capitalism got another side of the coin, how about all wow players buying up 51% of blizzard, then we place a good / trusy person in charge /joking:)

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aye, but capitalism got another side of the coin, how about all wow players buying up 51% of blizzard, then we place a good / trusy person in charge /joking:)

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and kick GhostCrawler :P /joke

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and kick GhostCrawler :P /joke

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haha ye, good one :P

Yeah but what's the use of all the 60/70 pvp and raid gear now?That's the only thing that's stupid,many people said that they should not make 70-79 but 71-79 AV and same with 60 AV.

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This is the most calm and collected post on the boards at the moment, so I will say a little on the matter. Do note not everyone will like what they hear.This is down to the individual. The brackets changes are here to stay for the foreseeable future at least. We can never say forever, because it's not something we can assure you or anyone of.

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what was the benifit of this change? to lose money or just to p!ss people off?

Ancilorn thank you for the reply , but can you not even see a bit of weakness in the ranks at your station, whereever that may be ?

This patch has done more to hurt than help im sure can be agreed upon for the mean time, is blizzard not even giving this patch a skeptical look on maybe being too soon , maybe we did it wrong. It seems a bit unusual for the big blues in the sky to throw out a change that alters queuing for instance from 3 mins to 55 mins without a hint of beta testing ... Is there words on Hotfixes that might ease the pain ? We got a minor hotfix on the exp front, but little use it is , when you still get at most 1 av per hour ...

Thank you again for noticing and the speedy reply

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This is the most calm and collected post on the boards at the moment, so I will say a little on the matter. Do note not everyone will like what they hear.This is down to the individual. The brackets changes are here to stay for the foreseeable future at least. We can never say forever, because it's not something we can assure you or anyone of.For a long time people were upset that battlegrounds launched with horribly unbalanced team numbers, and would rather queue a little longer to have a battle start with even sides, and now people are upset that queues are way too long despite being able to begin battles with even sides. It's a tough balancing act, and it will be monitored very, very carefully to see where improvements can be made down the line.

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Thank you for taking the time to respond. I am certain the furor will die down, as it always does. Well done on the patch.

Are there any news if locked-exp BGs working have any chances of getting 'fixed'? by any means, merge or free transfer? anything apart from having to pay transfer fee :)

PLS GM reply :) thanks

Ok I will be calm and I want my answer.

How is it better to wait a little longer over getting overwhelmed?

Now horde, both low and high level have queue times which say "wait time unavailable" this is the birocratic term for its not ganna happen. Right now at my level there is 1 WSG going on. And I am queued for WSG for 45mins now and it still doesn't invite me.

I say it is way better for every one that it goes back to what it was. The Alliance was usualy owherwhelmed and lost but had insta-queues and we had long queues but had a decent win ration. It was balanced as much as possible given the inherent injustice of our BGrp.

EDIT: Before the patch I could wait 15 or so mins for WSG while being on the forums. Then play, then join one of the middle queue time BGs AB/EotS and play. And then join AB. Now I can't play. Simple as that.

I called their tech support to inquire about the AV bracket change and it does seem like with the 70-79 change that it was implemented to change the xp-mechanics of the BG as the xp gain was based off the max level in the bracket.

The question is what the XP gain of BGs now being hotfixed why do they still insist on 60-69 brackets?

@OP: Good post!

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This change is so that players who are leveling (read: below 80) play together and players who are at the level cap play together, much like all the other Battlegrounds. This is of course being monitored. We've not put the change in place, washed our hands of it and walked away. Something like this is tough, if not impossible to test fully without the numbers only possible in a live realm situation.

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regardless, why not giving low lv's in BG's exp / honor and all stuff even if they die? cause atm this is a killing blow to all classic and TBC accers