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  • 0. Clarifications on Changes to Alterac Valley   23/09/2009 05:33:04 PDT
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With the launch of patch 3.2.2 today there have been some changes to the Alterac Valley battleground and we wanted to clarify what exactly has been done.

Level 80 characters now have their own bracket and there is a separate bracket for characters that are levels 70 to 79. This change was originally planned for patch 3.3 but it was accidently applied to the current patch 3.2.2. As we had already intended to make this change so that players who are leveling play together and players who are at the level cap play together, we will be keeping the bracket setup this way, but the level of the bosses in the brackets below level 80 will be reduced to compensate.

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  • Karazhan
  • 1. Re: Clarifications on Changes to Alterac Vall   23/09/2009 05:34:45 PDT
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bro story cool

E: Twink tears, how terrible.

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  • Stormrage
  • 2. Re: Clarifications on Changes to Alterac Vall   23/09/2009 05:47:17 PDT
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We have also made it so the experience bonus from heirloom items works properly in battlegrounds but the overall experience gained from competing in Alterac Valley has been intentionally reduced as we felt it was too rewarding compared to the other battlegrounds.


You might want to add this that was included in the post on the NA forums that Bornakk later edited out. That is if you intend to keep the xp changes intact.

[ Post edited by Hotaru ]


"We accidentally the whole AV." -- Bornakk

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19820331742
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  • Karazhan
  • 3. Re: Clarifications on Changes to Alterac Vall   23/09/2009 05:49:09 PDT
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[dumb] Warsong Gulch XP is FINE. [/dumb]

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  • 4. Re: Clarifications on Changes to Alterac Vall   23/09/2009 05:59:51 PDT
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Thank you for splitting AV into 70/71-79 and 80 brackets. It is appreciated. Glad to see that Blizzard listened.
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  • Haomarush
  • 5. Re: Clarifications on Changes to Alterac Vall   23/09/2009 06:37:34 PDT
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Good. Thanks.

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  • Sylvanas
  • 6. Re: Clarifications on Changes to Alterac Vall   23/09/2009 06:43:39 PDT
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Sub canceled.

WotlK account aswell since I used that one to keep my gold up.

So long
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  • 7. Re: Clarifications on Changes to Alterac Vall   23/09/2009 06:46:28 PDT
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Too bad is pretty useless since you totally messed up the pvp sistem . 1,5+ hours to join AV or EOTS ? Are we going back to those " once a day " battleground queues ? At least half of my battlegrounds were without the exact same number of players on both sides . You FAILED this... So long battlegrounds !
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  • Aerie Peak
  • 8. Re: Clarifications on Changes to Alterac Vall   23/09/2009 06:48:31 PDT
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Sub canceled.

WotlK account aswell since I used that one to keep my gold up.

So long

See ya in 2 weeks.

Seriously, Blizzard introduces a new feature, everyone is excited, then Blizzard tones it down a bit, and everyone's quitting? You got a better game than before. If you don't like a feature of the game, don't use it.

I for one wish to thank you for seperating the 70-79's from 80's.

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  • 9. Re: Clarifications on Changes to Alterac Vall   23/09/2009 06:54:24 PDT
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Why would lev 80's have a reason to do AV's now ?

they were empty before the XP gain 71-80 bracket, so what measures have blizz put in place to keep lev 80's entertained ??

I'll do an AV on a lev 80 later and see how busy they are, if there are any!
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  • 10. Re: Clarifications on Changes to Alterac Vall   23/09/2009 06:55:40 PDT
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Well unlike some i wont be quitting anything but BG's.. especially AV.

The new system atleast on my battlegroup does nothing but make it far less enjoyable and less likely to win. Rather than getting the fun out of making the 80 and lower work together as a team and win, instead all it has done is make AV a mass farmfest again much like it was at 70, none of the 80's care for a win they just want to get some HK's for the achievement's.

Atleast with the 71>80 Bracket you had lowbie's who wanted to actually win AV, they want to learn the tactic's to it and this made for some awesome battles.

I'm not as bad as to say i will quit the game, other parts of the game i enjoyed. But lately my only BG was AV and i loved hearing the people say "ding" and making everyone work together for a win.

Guess it's goodbye to that and all the people in AV now i wish the best of luck in your HK grindfests.

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  • 11. Re: Clarifications on Changes to Alterac Vall   23/09/2009 06:57:35 PDT
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Why would lev 80's have a reason to do AV's now ? they were empty before the XP gain 71-80 bracket, so what measures have blizz put in place to keep lev 80's entertained ??


There were always AVs open in my group, around the clock, even before XP was added. Why do 80s do AV? Um, because you get honour? And some of us like to, you know, play.
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  • 12. Re: Clarifications on Changes to Alterac Vall   23/09/2009 07:00:38 PDT
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AV is better for levelers now 80s are out of it (once Blizz actually fix the NPC levels)
I guess AV is better for 80s without all the "XP leechers" as they call levelers.

All I know is that a once very busy battlegroup with constant games nearly any time of day or night now has 30 min queues for AV and that ISN'T a good thing.
This is for the 70-79 group not checked on my 80s yet.


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  • Ravencrest
  • 13. Re: Clarifications on Changes to Alterac Vall   23/09/2009 07:02:53 PDT
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Fancy hot fixing in the rest of that BG system patch FAST cos you added the lvl changes without any of the ground work...

AV back to being dead on my level capped chars (and my none capped chars wont see it cos hate questing, loved the levelling in av) :D gz whiners.

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  • Stormrage
  • 14. Re: Clarifications on Changes to Alterac Vall   23/09/2009 07:05:38 PDT
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AV is better for levelers now 80s are out of it (once Blizz actually fix the NPC levels)
I guess AV is better for 80s without all the "XP leechers" as they call levelers.

All I know is that a once very busy battlegroup with constant games nearly any time of day or night now has 30 min queues for AV and that ISN'T a good thing.
This is for the 70-79 group not checked on my 80s yet.




What is not part of the OP in this thread is the quote i took from the NA forum. They did not just change the brackets they cut the xp gained from AV in half making it pointless to lvl via BGs.

That its not part of the OP here and it was edited out on the NA forum can indicate that they will revert that change and stick only to the bracket changes. But that is just a fools last hope to avoid the boredom that is questing.

"We accidentally the whole AV." -- Bornakk

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  • Colinas Pardas
  • 15. Re: Clarifications on Changes to Alterac Vall   23/09/2009 07:13:14 PDT
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So now the level 80s are going to have to wait for hours to get to play.. WTG Blizz.. =/
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  • 16. Re: Clarifications on Changes to Alterac Vall   23/09/2009 07:17:11 PDT
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So now the level 80s are going to have to wait for hours to get to play.. WTG Blizz.. =/


Not in my group. The servers (extended maintenance) came back an hour ago, and I have instant invites for AV and WSG (not tried others). But AV still starts with 8 vs 39.
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  • Ravencrest
  • 17. Re: Clarifications on Changes to Alterac Vall   23/09/2009 07:17:58 PDT
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Put the exp back up in 70-79 and fix the npc levels ;) Good hot fix idea.

The honour can stay as it is now, i was feeling a little bit like a crook taking all that honour AND experience.

I don't much like Blizard telling me where i should be getting my experience though. Give me options and i'll make my own choices. Don't go pulling the rug from underneath me.

The exp was slow as hell compared to questing. Slower than instance grinding too. HELL if u dont win every match or have a bunch of idiots playing u dont get any exp anyway for 30mins of gaming.

The brackets are probably fine, sucks to be a twink atm, but i dont have time for them anyway.

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  • Runetotem
  • 18. Re: Clarifications on Changes to Alterac Vall   23/09/2009 07:19:50 PDT
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So I was in a Vanilla raiding and PvP guild. I'll be canceling because of these changes because theres nothing left for me to do in the game.

Look don't get me wrong its not the changes I'm unhappy about I've had a long run at 60 and its been great but that this was unannounced and was apparently a mistake is twatish behavior. Theres not been one single #!!#ing mention of this neither was it on the PTR and it must have been planned for some time if it was ready to go live and function already.

However you were happy to take the tonnes of classic players money when even just last week they were paying for faction changes and transfers, and now to leave them with nothing to play for and that money wasted is bull%@!#. Money grabbing bastards.
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  • 19. Re: Clarifications on Changes to Alterac Vall   23/09/2009 07:20:31 PDT
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Not in my group. The servers (extended maintenance) came back an hour ago, and I have instant invites for AV and WSG (not tried others). But AV still starts with 8 vs 39.


Yeah that was another great fix.
I just played an AV (after a 20min wait) with 40vs 20

GG Blizz!

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