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  • 0. Make a Third Talent Specialization?   08/09/2009 04:03:59 PDT
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I have tought that a third spec. would be really fun and useful.
i'm a warrior and i have got 3 sets (pve dps, pve tank, pvp dps) but only with only 2 spec.
For dps i would change it to fury, but I would be unplayable in pvp.
What do you think?
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  • 1. Re: Make a Third Talent Specialization?   08/09/2009 04:09:02 PDT
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GC already commented on this and the answer was no. Maybe down the road.
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  • 2. Re: Make a Third Talent Specialization?   08/09/2009 05:01:21 PDT
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GC already commented on this and the answer was no. Maybe down the road.


This is true.

We want the game to be more fun by making it less painful to switch and play multiple aspects of the game, but we still want some decision-making and deliberation to be involved when building your character. If you had tri-specs, or even quad-specs, then talent builds would become less meaningful and choices would become trivial.

We like that you have to make some choices on how to specialize and adapt your character, and we do not wish to change this by removing the need to respec when trying out new things or changing things up a bit.

You can probably gather from this that we have no plans to allow for a third talent spec, and it will be a long time, if ever, before we would consider such plans.

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  • 3. Re: Make a Third Talent Specialization?   08/09/2009 05:04:09 PDT
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totally yes.
3 is logical and makes sense, cos each class has 3 talent trees which are interesting in their own way.

i'd even go for 4-5 specializations, cos there are so many combos and u don't really want to respec each single time or reroll a second same char just to try another combo.
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  • 4. Re: Make a Third Talent Specialization?   08/09/2009 05:15:32 PDT
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Hell no,this game got dumbed down so much in the lest years.This would only be another link which will to an even easier gameplay.

As a druid I should eb FIRST to say yes(since I got to chose from 4 specs in pve alone) but I wont.
As for why do I think this?well the blue post is right on the money no need to repeat it.

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  • 5. Re: Make a Third Talent Specialization?   08/09/2009 05:23:24 PDT
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As it is today with all the tanking clases (DK/Pala/War/Dru) you have atleast 3 specs you constantly use
1 - Tanking
2 - PvE DPS/Heal
3- PvP DPS/Heal

But since most players aren't the MT of their guild they usualy ignore the tanking spec and go for PvE/PvP - DPS/Heal , thus taking us to the pain that is in the LFG channel , where you have to wait for a healer/tank for 10-20 mins . The same thing is availible for my war (I have uld25 DPS/Tanking gear) , where I only respec from PvP-arms to Prot when I am needed to tank a specific encounter , otherwise I don't bother respecking for other small instances (changing the glypths is the BIGGEST pain in the ass.....).
The best thing that would be is to make the triple spec availible for a verry high price , so only 5% of the pop would buy it , like 5-10k gold .
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  • 6. Re: Make a Third Talent Specialization?   08/09/2009 05:24:56 PDT
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Q u o t e:
Hell no,this game got dumbed down so much in the lest years.This would only be another link which will to an even easier gameplay.

As a druid I should eb FIRST to say yes(since I got to chose from 4 specs in pve alone) but I wont.
As for why do I think this?well the blue post is right on the money no need to repeat it.


Agreed ^^

I have Prot / Ret Palla (ret just for doing my dailies), i would love to try Palla healing, so im going to either level another palla or just re-spec my ret to holy...

same on my druid... resto / balance, but would like to try tanking.. same again, either level another or re-specc one you already have..... don't make it so that i can be Tank, DPS and Healer.. what is the point in that? It makes the decision of what tree(s) to pick pointless and non-existant, which is part of the game that i love... when i started my palla it was Prot from level 10 onwards.... my warrior will be prot once im in outland, fury/arms mix for levelling... i'm having to make the decision!

It leaves some form of thought being needed in the game still.. only a little bit at least it's something. lol

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  • Darksorrow
  • 7. Re: Make a Third Talent Specialization?   08/09/2009 05:26:06 PDT
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Indeed, a third and final spec makes sense really. Let's face it, in the past you just respec for the sake of respeccing, adding dual spec didn't make anything "easier" it just saves a lot of hassle going to the trainer, re-speccing, reglyphing (yawn). I for one think a third spec should come at some point even if the gold price is very high.
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  • 8. Re: Make a Third Talent Specialization?   08/09/2009 05:58:44 PDT
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But come on,why did you separate PvP and PvE so much than?That's the main problem if you ask me,cause you can't do PvP and PvE wih same talents,glyphs and that's why even 6-7 specs would make sense for some classes and people who want to try both PvE and PvP.

At least make it so that you don't have to pay for respec anymore after 1000g or something.

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  • Der Mithrilorden
  • 9. Re: Make a Third Talent Specialization?   08/09/2009 06:00:35 PDT
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if you were able to choose between the three trees and the click of the button there would be no point in having them
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  • 10. Re: Make a Third Talent Specialization?   08/09/2009 06:03:36 PDT
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Q u o t e:


This is true.

We want the game to be more fun by making it less painful to switch and play multiple aspects of the game, but we still want some decision-making and deliberation to be involved when building your character. If you had tri-specs, or even quad-specs, then talent builds would become less meaningful and choices would become trivial.

We like that you have to make some choices on how to specialize and adapt your character, and we do not wish to change this by removing the need to respec when trying out new things or changing things up a bit.

You can probably gather from this that we have no plans to allow for a third talent spec, and it will be a long time, if ever, before we would consider such plans.



That all well and good until you take a look at guild requirements on hybrids and the pve/pvp divide.

2 specs is fine if your a pure but no where near enough for hybrids......especially when a lot of hybrids are pretty much at the bottom of the PvP pecking order in 2/3 of their specs.
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  • 11. Re: Make a Third Talent Specialization?   08/09/2009 06:22:06 PDT
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Seriously, you want to make the game even more casual? 2 are fine.

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  • 12. Re: Make a Third Talent Specialization?   08/09/2009 06:24:11 PDT
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I am fine with 2 specs, but what would be nice is an option to save your choices for 3rd fourth and fifth, and have to do it at a trainer like normal respec.

at the end of the day, people do have 3-4 specs, and usually they have the spec saved on website etc - just allow it to be saved in the game but make you change at trainer

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  • 13. Re: Make a Third Talent Specialization?   08/09/2009 06:25:30 PDT
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four years with only one spec. you should still be relishing two.

besides, if you get 3, you will ask for 4 a month later.

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  • 14. Re: Make a Third Talent Specialization?   08/09/2009 06:28:07 PDT
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What the hell has the number of talent specs got to do with casualness?

Changing spec is money and time.....EVERYONE, whether casual or hardcore, deems their money and time as something precious.

Personally, I want to enjoy the various aspects of the game. Farming for gold for daily re-specs for arena because my guild wants me to have 2 PvE specs, it not fun and removes an entire part of the game from me for no other reason then I am a hybrid and are expected to have 2 PvE specs.

Dual Spec was brought in to help this and it has done for pures and most people in end-game guilds.

Just because someone isn't in an end-game min/max-hardmodes-all-the-way guild, does not mean they are a casual wanting the game dumbed down.

Perhaps we just want to enjoy a little more of what the game has to offer without a big frustating obstacle like "talent spec" getting in the way.......
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  • 15. Re: Make a Third Talent Specialization?   08/09/2009 06:28:35 PDT
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Q u o t e:
Seriously, you want to make the game even more casual? 2 are fine.
Please tell me how Tri-Spec makes the game more casual.

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  • 16. Re: Make a Third Talent Specialization?   08/09/2009 06:30:01 PDT
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totally yes.
3 is logical and makes sense, cos each class has 3 talent trees which are interesting in their own way.

i'd even go for 4-5 specializations, cos there are so many combos and u don't really want to respec each single time or reroll a second same char just to try another combo.


So you're telling me, you'd pay 5k for 5 talent specs and actually make a return instead of just respeccing? Not to mention they'd probably increase in price like bank slots to say 3 or 4k a piece.

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  • 17. Re: Make a Third Talent Specialization?   08/09/2009 06:30:13 PDT
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As a Rouge I'm gonna say no.

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  • 18. Re: Make a Third Talent Specialization?   08/09/2009 06:32:20 PDT
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3 Specs? No way.

Need to have some choices to make, having 3 specs remoes thats completely and tbh will make it stale and all toons of the same class too much the same.

Stick with two.


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  • 19. Re: Make a Third Talent Specialization?   08/09/2009 06:33:31 PDT
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We like that you have to make some choices on how to specialize and adapt your character, and we do not wish to change this by removing the need to respec when trying out new things or changing things up a bit.

Well, the main thing that changed for me when I started using dual specs was this: I now respec more often, for changing things up, because I have two specs I can tweak instead of only one. I'm sure that would go up with a third spec. I guess overall respecs do go down, because people no longer have to respec between situations they find themselves in anyway.

There are of course classes that would essentially gain three nearly identical specs with small adaptations to specific situations, and yes I do think of rogues here mainly. All the hybrid classes however, which means all healers and tanks, would hugely benefit from a tri-spec. Building gear for all three parts would still involve decisions, and what gear to equip for what situations - but it would no longer imply that somebody who wanted to both tank and do PvP would necessarily bring relatively bad dps to raids.

But, of course, 2 specs are awesome already :)

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