Now with all the changes to racials and much research and reading from different reviews done, I am convinced that having a Human Rogue is slightly or considerably better than having a Night Elf one. I like to keep my options open for both PvE and PvP and I want to have the potential to reach the maximum offered by the Rogue class. You never know when you will switch mains.

Some might indicate that having another race would be a better choice, but I really do care for looks (so no Gnome or Dwarves please) and I want to keep this Rogue along with the rest of my alts and under the supervision of my main (so no Horde reroll suggestions please).

Assuming that leveling another Rogue would not be a bother, and that you have the experience and insight in playing this class, would you advice against removing this one and making a Human Rogue or would you do the same if you were in my shoes?

I apologize if there were other threads discussing the same matter. But I could not find any threads involving the complete deletion of an old character for the sake of a couple of racials. Looking forward to have a glimpse of your long experience and wisdom.

PS: Please excuse spelling or grammar mistakes. English is not my mother language.

Imo, human racials aren't superior to the night elf ones. Shadowmeld is extremely useful as well. Rerolling human because of a few racials which might not even make a difference, might be a mistake as you're pretty close to 80 on your night elf. Up to you really :)

imo the best looking rouges are Undead (horde) Gnome (alliance)

You can't even see the armor on a gnome, no offence.

Christ you guys who care about appearance so much make me laugh. Although saying that I love the fact that people might get angry when beat down by my lovely human rogue who has a moustache! I mean a moustache, its brown, and did I mention its **%!ing huge!

Although, to the OP's topic, I wouldn't bother wasting time re leveling a human rogue over NE, just learn to love your own racials, you'll only miss them when they are gone.

Zefrui, how you constantly manage to post so many useless and even stupid posts on the rogue forum? Try to post more objectively and factually and you might just be helpful for someone or at least not such annoyance. I apologise for using such strong words, but really...

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Zefrui, how you constantly manage to post so many useless and even stupid posts on the rogue forum? Try to post more objectively and factually and you might just be helpful for someone or at least not such annoyance. I apologise for using such strong words, but really...

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I post what I want, nothing you can do about it.

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I post what I want, nothing you can do about it.

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That is true, to a certain extent.

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http://eutawstreethooligans.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/tom-selleck-magnum-pi-c10102602.jpg

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Yes, yes, yes!

That is me.

It depends on what you want to do with your rogue.

A night elf rogue has increased stealth, night elves have the best stealth in the game and are very hard to find with max Master of Deception, nelfs also have a second vanish, but it does not remove snares and you need to be careful with it as it is deactivated by moving.
The wisp spirit racial is helpful only for leveling really, being able to return to your corpse faster.
"Quickness" helps against melee attacks and ranged weapons and nature resistance helps against nature spells but these effects are really marginal.

Human rogues, with thier every man for himself racial they don't have to get a pvp trinket, so it's really like an extra trinket slot. Thier perception ability helps against stealth classes (druids and rogues), it helps when trying to sap a stealthed enemy rogue before they sap you as you will detect them easier. The sword and mace racials give free expertise (3 each) when equipping 1h maces or swords this helps as it reduces the chance enemies will dodge or parry your attacks. The spirit racial doesnt do much for a rogue and the +10% faction is helpfull for gaining reputation.

Hope this helps.

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Now with all the changes to racials and much research and reading from different reviews done, I am convinced that having a Human Rogue is slightly or considerably better than having a Night Elf one. I like to keep my options open for both PvE and PvP and I want to have the potential to reach the maximum offered by the Rogue class. You never know when you will switch mains.

Some might indicate that having another race would be a better choice, but I really do care for looks (so no Gnome or Dwarves please) and I want to keep this Rogue along with the rest of my alts and under the supervision of my main (so no Horde reroll suggestions please).

Assuming that leveling another Rogue would not be a bother, and that you have the experience and insight in playing this class, would you advice against removing this one and making a Human Rogue or would you do the same if you were in my shoes?

I apologize if there were other threads discussing the same matter. But I could not find any threads involving the complete deletion of an old character for the sake of a couple of racials. Looking forward to have a glimpse of your long experience and wisdom.

PS: Please excuse spelling or grammar mistakes. English is not my mother language.

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I'm gonna try to be nice. There's no such as better in PvP, all that matters there is your skill, whether you are human or night elf, it doesn't change much. Keep lvling your night elf, as they look hella awesome at lvl 80 and the racials are just as good as humans (if not better imo.) it's certainly not worth lvling one more rogue since you're already lvl 62 and won't be too long till you reach 80.

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Humans are better for pvp. And female humans have one of the better animations from all race / gender in the game, in my opinion.

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They also have fat thighs (yes! I went there!) ;)

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Applebottom jeans yo?

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YES

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I'm gonna try to be nice.

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I, however, feel no such constraint.

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There's no such as better in PvP, all that matters there is your skill, whether you are human or night elf, it doesn't change much. Keep lvling your night elf, as they look hella awesome at lvl 80 and the racials are just as good as humans (if not better imo.) it's certainly not worth lvling one more rogue since you're already lvl 62 and won't be too long till you reach 80.

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In the 4 and half years playing this game and hanging around the rogue forums, I have never seen as much opinionated drivel as I have seen posted by you over the last week or so. Even though you have only just dinged 80 and have limited experience of rogues, you feel arrogant enough to come and lecture others about how they play their rogues. You pass of your opinions as fact on a regular basis; and end up giving incorrect and bad advice in doing so.

Who are you to tell someone how they should play? What they should level? Do you pay the op's subscription? No. So, if for whatever reason he is not happy with his current choice of race, he is well within his rights to try another - without being pooh-poohed for it by the likes of you.

However, you are correct; there is very little anyone can do to stop you posting your ill-judged opinions, other than continuing to correct them on the same regular basis in the way more knowledgeable players have been doing since you arrived on the scene. In a way it's good that we have you posting though - because it reminds me that there are terribad players out there who think they know everything about a class having played it for 5 minutes.

Oh, and thank you for drawing me into typing that out - I feel a whole lot better now :)

tbh, I myself considered re rolling a human rogue instead of levelling this up from 60.

I'm glad i didn't. Male NElf animations look crap imo, stealth movement is ok, but normal running we look a bit gangly and like we have no coordination skills. which isn't helped by the off hand animations, or rather, our lack of them.

however, you will learn to love NElf racials. Shadowmeld has saved my arse an infinite amount of times more than Vanish could ever dream of. It even makes spells miss you when cast at you! (sometimes) Improved Stealth gives you an advantage over every other stealth class. very very rarely do i lose a stealth sniffing contest because our stealth is better than human perception.

and a free trinket slot isnt that good. ive always preferred "passive" things, or "equip" as opposed to "use" items, and in the same tone, I genuinely would rather have to use a trinket slot for a freedom trinket, and have the Quickness racial. That 2% increased chance to not be hit is great imo. With the Sub talent Heightened Senses, it gives us 4% more. 6%+ standard 5% is 11% chance to miss us. No one ever opts for decent amounts of hit rating in PVP, certainly not 11%, and that coupled with a 30% dodge chance actually does make a hell of a difference for me.

the grass is not always greener on the other side, so learn to love what you have. Until paid race change, then of course, we will all be UD because they look cool and have the most OP racials and uberness ;)