Im really disappointed by this Q&A, it did answer like one or possibly two problems the warriors got, but really, how can you even compare warriors defensive stance to DK's frost presence? If the answers to our problems are like this, I dont even want know whats coming for us.

No wonder the whole warrior community is mad, I bet everyone had high hopes about this Q&A, and this is what we get. Go wonder...

HUGE IDEA

about heroic strike spam
do this - if you at 100rage any additional rage that you get automatically increase you next swing damage!!!
so rage don't wasted and you don't need to spam heroic strike
just do you normal rotation

don't know if dd warriors need this

pls post this on US forum

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Q u o t e:
do this - if you at 100rage any additional rage that you get automatically increase you next swing damage!!!
so rage don't wasted and you don't need to spam heroic strike
just do you normal rotation

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It's a good idea, but you'd still have excess rage that could be converted into tps/dps so therefore, even if it's likely to slowly eat away at your keyboard, heroic strike's still a better idea.

If you look on the US forums they've posted a followup Q&A . They dont like how heroic strike works and were thinking about makeing it work a little like execute, where it uses more rage if you have it spare for a boost in damage/threat.

Which is a far worse idea than yours in that all it would do is cause us to do threat in bursts and then become rage starved.

(sorry my English)
HUGE IDEA
post this on US pls

I know that they posted second part.That's why i came to this solution.

Solution:
warriors will have additional rage bar - like 100rage cap.
when you get over 100rage on your main bar additional rage will go to second bar.
after second bar will fill like 15 rage it will automatically use heroic strike
second bar may be hidden

you wont waste rage.only if you get more than 200 - almost impossible if you use your skills
second bar may be used for something more than only heroic strikes

its just a main concept.you can use additional rage that stored in second bar in many other ways - suggestions?

it will not affect pvp btw cause warriors there don't have many rage =(

The rage was and still is the main problem for the warr.All classes need to just stop fighting for a moment to get a bit replenish on the mana or energy but we need to keep fighting to gain rage.I got killed the other day by a rouge.I never touched him .He managed to chew my 15k armor (was in arms spec at the moment) and 23k HP I was incapacitated the whole 10 seconds of the fight.I have low resilience about 400 so I went to look up the rouge on armory he was in gear lower or equal to mine.So after the initial frustration disappeared from me I did remember this Q&A and did say to my self "That rouge was lucky just because I am an OP warr.When Blizz nerfs us (The Warriors ) a bit more and we are UP like a warlock or a rouge I will gank that guy till he quits the game (or comes with some of his friends and they gank me whichever comes first)
So instead of trying to prove a point to Blizz lets all just start asking for Blizz to nerf us more so we are UP just like a warlock or a rouge ,shaman disc priest or even a druid (I personally would settle to be like a warlock )
PS Blizz dont you dare to make us UP like paladins seriously I will quit the game

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Q u o t e:
Community Team: It appears that many players who enjoy the Warrior class for its damage aspects continue to feel that, without best in-slot items, their class’s performance is very truncated.

Q: Is this an issue that we have seen in the Warrior class? If so, do we have any plans to accommodate those players who do not have best in-slot items, while still keeping those with the very best equipment from being too powerful?

A: This really just gets back to the way rage works, which is that damage leads to rage so you have to pick a point at which you balance warriors. High damage and high rage? Low damage and low rage? The way to fix it is to normalize rage even more so that you always get X rage per second regardless of gear. But once you always get X rage per second you essentially just have rogue energy. So, as with the previous question, we don’t like the way it is working and want to change it but we don’t have a perfect substitute in the can just yet.

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"After years of witnessing the scaling issues of Warriors, we've started thinking of ideas on how to fix it. However, it's on the bottom of the To-Do list after the Vanish bug."

I like problems being acknowledged. I don't like problems being acknowledged that were always there and looked at like "¯\(°_o)/¯ DUNNO, LOL".

warrior Wont have anything new because blizzard say they gave us [Blood Craze] [Second Wind]
so its enough warrior will alwasy be underpowrd for ever think about it instade we say WTB buff
we say WTB How to kill this and that we need Exprtice armor ignore more attak powr more crit chance more hit rating stuff like this should be increased by talents in Good way not by 5 and 4 it should be by a % with in 20/30 % blizzard playing fevorats here they like paladins and death kinghts dont tell me DK got nerf if they did stuff like heart strike would make less damage by now its a No way to kill a frost dk even if your prot and it would happin in your Top prot geer not in greens or easy epic any way no matter how many pages no matter how many warrior change his class we wont get anything now at Wotlk its like this:

Paladins
DeathKnight
rogues
Druid
Shaman
Ohhh were is warrior is the list???..........oh its ok will buff em at level 90 let me whine and die.

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Q u o t e:
If you look on the US forums they've posted a followup Q&A . They dont like how heroic strike works and were thinking about makeing it work a little like execute, where it uses more rage if you have it spare for a boost in damage/threat.

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Strange that they didn't post this on EU.
Do you think it's cause they post this on US just to shut up people?Nice.

BTW warriors wont change until their population drop to zero.

copy and paste from the US forums.

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Q: Do we currently have any plans to change Heroic Strike to make it no longer necessary to hit that button on every weapon swing?

A: Yes, we really don’t like way Heroic Strike works. On-next-swing attacks just don’t feel right and for tanks especially you can convert every white attack into a Heroic Strike. Unfortunately, they do the job, which is why we haven’t changed it yet. It’s job is to let warriors bleed off excess rage by converting it to damage and / or threat. It’s possible to fix this in other ways, such as perhaps the hit consuming more rage the more you have Execute-style.

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BTW warriors wont change until their population drop to zero.

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They are trying to buff us slightly, even if it is mostly likely to stop the flood of forum abuse they're getting.

The changes to devesate look promising and atleast they've admited there's a problem with heroic strike, so progress will hopefully come.

i got good idea for warrior a great buff ,,,
first removing [Commanding Shout] [Battle Shout] and adding this one:

i didnt came up with a name:D
increase the warrior health and attak powr by amount of 10% of the warrior armor in addition when ever the warrior damage is absorbed he will regan 20rage evry sacend for 10sacend This buff last for 30min instade of the 3min buff,,, i dont see anything op in it ,, it will give good AP for dps and good hp for tanks.

i think it's too hard to complete the epic achievement as warrior tank. because the only ranged tanking weap that is 213+ is from ulduar 25 - razorscale, ilvl 232...

everything else is pug'able but that, donno if it was intended to have 1 item that is way harder to get than all other :)

I play a Fury warrior, every day I get whispered;

"Tank?"
"Want to tank X dungeon?"
"Hey mate, are you up for some tanking?"

I don't actually think I've been asked to do DPS...ever! And 66.6% of Warrior trees are for DPS!

As for PVP, I have a huge neon sign above me that reads "EASY MEAT - KILL ME PLEASE!"
Unless I have a "Tree" crawling up my rear my pvp survivability is 0-2 seconds. Infact I was killed by a Tauren healer yesterday, he just pop'd out of Tree and into normal Tauren form and slaughtered me like a hog! I dropped my hunter at 75 to make a warrior, I've often said "should have made Paladin/DK"
My hunter was amazing I tell you in battlegrounds I owned, and he didnt have good gear infact it was all green, but my DPS was almost always 1st or 2nd. When people attacked me I didn't really fear them at all, but I'm more of a hack and slash person. (For some reason, after reading classes when I first started playing I thought hunters where 50/50% Melee and ranged). "Wearing light to medium armor, hunters can also dual wield weapons in combat, fighting beside their pets in battle." - Miss read that.

The Q&A Basically translates into;

"Yes we know rage is broken."
"Yes we know warriors in pvp are like hogs for roasting, just apply the spit"
"Yes we know shouts are annoying."
"Oh wait you thought we cared?"
and finally
"We're tired of Warriors and are thinking of axing the class"

Well you might as well AXE warriors, the amount of people that have given up, there are only two types of Warriors. Those who like me foolishly hope that better gear and future patches will solve things. and those who've never played the class. Everyone with common sense has re-rolled.

/sigh

If things don't turn around soon I'm going to make a frost dk i think.

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Q u o t e:
Follow up Questions:

Community Team: Some players feel that, while tanking, having to continually hit Heroic Strike to match your weapon’s swing can become somewhat tedious.

Q: Do we currently have any plans to change Heroic Strike to make it no longer necessary to hit that button on every weapon swing?

A: Yes, we really don’t like way Heroic Strike works. On-next-swing attacks just don’t feel right and for tanks especially you can convert every white attack into a Heroic Strike. Unfortunately, they do the job, which is why we haven’t changed it yet. It’s job is to let warriors bleed off excess rage by converting it to damage and / or threat. It’s possible to fix this in other ways, such as perhaps the hit consuming more rage the more you have Execute-style.

Community Team: It appears that many players who enjoy the Warrior class for its damage aspects continue to feel that, without best in-slot items, their class’s performance is very truncated.

Q: Is this an issue that we have seen in the Warrior class? If so, do we have any plans to accommodate those players who do not have best in-slot items, while still keeping those with the very best equipment from being too powerful?

A: This really just gets back to the way rage works, which is that damage leads to rage so you have to pick a point at which you balance warriors. High damage and high rage? Low damage and low rage? The way to fix it is to normalize rage even more so that you always get X rage per second regardless of gear. But once you always get X rage per second you essentially just have rogue energy. So, as with the previous question, we don’t like the way it is working and want to change it but we don’t have a perfect substitute in the can just yet.

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Everyone has seen this, and apart from the interesting HS stuff it still doesn't answer the questions we wanted answered

well i gotta say, i'm rather dissapointed, were nowhere near as good as other classes in terms of dps no matter what spec we are and blizzards either turning a blind eye or just ignoring us altogether. when i first started playing WoW a while back, i picked warrior as my first class with the intent of being a tank cause a heave plate wearing shield and sword combatant with nothing but skill appealed to me and as much as i love my warrior, im afraid i wont be taking it to raids like i used too in my guild for fear that i'll only be holding the raid back, as tank or as fury/arms. thank you blizzard, after seeing the Q&A's for the other classes i thought you'd take us out of the rain, but instead were now the unwanted middle child of classes.

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Q u o t e:
Follow up Questions:

Community Team: Some players feel that, while tanking, having to continually hit Heroic Strike to match your weapon’s swing can become somewhat tedious.

Q: Do we currently have any plans to change Heroic Strike to make it no longer necessary to hit that button on every weapon swing?

A: Yes, we really don’t like way Heroic Strike works. On-next-swing attacks just don’t feel right and for tanks especially you can convert every white attack into a Heroic Strike. Unfortunately, they do the job, which is why we haven’t changed it yet. It’s job is to let warriors bleed off excess rage by converting it to damage and / or threat. It’s possible to fix this in other ways, such as perhaps the hit consuming more rage the more you have Execute-style.

Community Team: It appears that many players who enjoy the Warrior class for its damage aspects continue to feel that, without best in-slot items, their class’s performance is very truncated.

Q: Is this an issue that we have seen in the Warrior class? If so, do we have any plans to accommodate those players who do not have best in-slot items, while still keeping those with the very best equipment from being too powerful?

A: This really just gets back to the way rage works, which is that damage leads to rage so you have to pick a point at which you balance warriors. High damage and high rage? Low damage and low rage? The way to fix it is to normalize rage even more so that you always get X rage per second regardless of gear. But once you always get X rage per second you essentially just have rogue energy. So, as with the previous question, we don’t like the way it is working and want to change it but we don’t have a perfect substitute in the can just yet.

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you guys realy forgot about the europe forums for a week or somthing cause this is old news.

Ok, here's something I've been DYING to know, concering Blizz's hybrid theory.

According to you, a hybrid class should pump out less dps than a pure class, that's fine with me, if rogue or mage puts out less dps than a warrior, they're pretty much useless, I understand that.

HOWEVER what you've never mentioned is there's a freaking sub categories to the "Hybrid" class, and it looks something like this:

Hybrid Class 1: (Tanks and DPS) Warriors and DKs
Hybrid Class 2: (Healing and DPS) Preists, Shamans

Then there's a 3rd category, you ready?

Hybrid Class 3: (Tanking, Healing AND DPS) Druids, Paladins

Now, if a "Pure DPS Class" should be able to put up better DPS than a Hybrid class, because it's their only option, why is it that a Hybrid that has 3 options can out tank, out heal and out DPS a hybrid class with only 2 options?

Now why can a Paladin and Druid out tank and out DPS a warrior (equally geared) and still have the option to heal?

By your own logic Druids and Paladins should be relegated to off tank and secondary healing roles in any situation, and should never out dps warriors, preists, shamans or DKs, because they can fill more roles in a raid.

THIS would be balance, not "every class can pretty much do the same thing". It takes the unique class aspects away.

Now, if you truly believed your own hybrid hype, the damage meters should read something like this (all things, gear, skill, etc. being equal)

Rogue/Mage/Warlock/Hunter on top
Warrior/DK/Shaman/Preist in the middle
Druid/Paladin bringing up the rear

Healing meters should read like this
Preist/Shaman on top
Druid Paladin bringing up the rear

Your best tanks should always be a warrior or a DK, your secondary tank options should always be a Druid or a Paladin

Q&A telling me L2P? Put on my gear and put up significantly better numbers than me, see how far you get

Stop the whining.It wont help.

Do one of this:
1.reroll
2.quit
3.accept this bs

Personally i rerolled.Warrior my twink now.
He still suck in pvp.Bring nothing in pve.But i have spare time to play him sometimes.
It wont change in near future.Read Q&A carefully.I didn't saw any promises there.

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Q u o t e:
We need to make the same pass on the dps side of things. The reason we haven’t done so yet is that warrior dps is in a pretty good place and we don’t want to have to dilute the class across the board just to make some talents a little sexier. [b]We will eventually do this though.

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is it me or did GC say that there going to nerf is more?

They just gave us the rhetorical finger and told us to @*!* off. Yep.

Thanks for dip!%#% blizzard.